X-Message-Number: 31727
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 08:23:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: david pizer <>
Subject: We need to protect ourselves

What may be the single most serious threat to YOU getting your suspension?

Below are some clips from the recent post about the Alcor member who died and 
his relatives did not notify Alcor and seem (in my opinion) to be trying to keep
his suspension from happening.  (Then below the clip are my comments:

" Orville Martin Richardson, who died in February at 81, wanted to donate his 
remains "not only in the hope of potential revival, but also to prove and 
perfect the process" of cryonic suspension.

Richardson, according to the lawsuit paid Alcor more than $50,000 in 2004 for a 
membership and included money in his will. He is buried in Aspen Grove Cemetery.

He also gave Alcor full custody on his remains "by whatever legal means may be 
available for the purposes of placing them into cryonic suspension."

Still, Alcor attorneys contend the man's brother, David Richardson of Ohio and 
his sister Darlene Broeker of West Burlington -- co-admnistrators of the estate 
-- denied the foundation's request for their brother's remains. They also didn't
let Alcor know their brother died."

David speaking again:  Being a cryonicists myself since the early 80's, and 
hearing horor stories from even before that, and having been an Alcor Director 
and Officer for 11 years, I have come to the conclusion that the single most 
dangerous obstacle facing a cryonicist is that when they get old and senile and 
infirm there is the risk that their relatives (or others) will try to prevent 
their suspension.

Most cryonicists seem to forget that just before they die they will be older and
may be being managed by relatives or the government, both of whom may think 
cryonics is silly, stupid, a waste of good money, or even a rip off.  It often 
isn't a sudden act that keeps a suspension from happening but as the cryonicist 
gets older his/her relatives (or others) move them away from the cryonics 
community.  We cryonicists at present don't have a way of keeping track of our 
people on a daily basis.  We don't have a way of protecting them from their 
relatives or others who don't want them suspended.

We need a physical community where older cryonicists can come to live among 
other cryonicists - where we can take care of our own as we get older.  Where we
can protect our own.

I was planning to help build such a community in Arizona and I was accumulating 
wealth to do so, however the recent economic worldwide financial reversal has 
slowed that down.

Anyone interested in being involved a project like this can contact me.


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