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From: "John de Rivaz" <>
Subject: Coroners and Justice Bill now before the House of Lords
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:25:13 +0100


Regular readers may recall that I posted details of the Coroners and Justice 
Bill when it was first brought to my attention. As suggested for others, I wrote
to my MP asking that he support the bill. He obtained a letter, which is 
attached below, on my behalf. Whilst not ideal for cryonics patients, it goes a 
long way towards that from the previous legal situation, and we must be thankful
for that. 


Obviously cryonics people know that dissecting a cryonics patient who may have 
been the victim of violent crime is no different to dissecting a patient who has
had a heart attack whilst a victim of crime and could otherwise be retrieved by
urgent restorative surgery. However for the rest of the world to think of it 
this way there needs to be evidence based cryonics. This is, of course, 
impossible to achieve until such a time as cryonics is no longer needed for new 
patients. (Restoring cryopreservation damage is such an enormous task that any 
civilisation capable of doing it is going to be able to restore virtually all 
other damage.) 


Others believe that restoring a smaller life form from cryopreservation would 
provide sufficient evidence, but embryos are already cryopreserved and restored 
as a routine matter. Maybe something as big as a pig would be better, but that 
is still a long way off. Even then people could argue that its program and data 
(soul) may have been lost.


However if coroners can be made aware that demanding the dissection of a 
cryonics patient is likely to give them a lot of work and trouble, they may be 
discouraged from doing so.


If there are any comments or questions readers would like to make, I have been 
offered the chance to write again [16 June 2009]. But ideally writing to your 
own MP would be best.

British citizens can find the name and contact details of their local MPs here:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Diol1/DoItOnline/DG_4018047 





In the letter that follows, <Post Mortem **examination**> is an ellipsis for 
<Post Mortem **dissection**>. "Examination" implies looking, not cutting.



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Thank you for your letter of 13 May on behalf of your constituent Mr John de 
Rivaz who supports the possibility of post mortems being carried out by Magnetic
Resonance Imaging (MRI) scan rather than by traditional invasive methods.


I am pleased to confirm that clause 16 (2) of the Coroners and Justice Bill, 
which recently concluded its passage through the House of Commons and is now 
before the House of Lords, provides for coroners to specify the kind of 
examination to be made when requesting a postmortem examination. This can 
include examination by way of an MRI scan.


This is a very important proposal that will contribute to our aim of making the 
coroner service more responsive to the needs of bereaved families and to faith 
groups. The loss of a loved one is extremely difficult for a family to deal with
and the thought of an invasive post-mortem can compound the grief and distress.
We therefore hope that greater use can be made of this alternative method of 
post mortem examination.


Coroners in some areas of England, including Manchester, are already offering 
bereaved families the option of a non-invasive post mortem, on their own 
initiative. I with the support of the Secretary of State want this option to be 
available to all bereaved families in England and Wales, where circumstances 
permit, and we are already working towards this, pending the implementation of 
the provisions in the Bill.


As Mr de Rivaz points out, the use of MRI scans for post mortem examinations is 
also currently being piloted formally in Manchester (and also in two other 
areas) by the Department of Health. The results of these research projects are 
expected to be available next year, and they will help to clarify the types of 
cases where the use of MRI scanning might be appropriate. It is already clear 
that an MRI scan may not be appropriate in every case and therefore the coroner 
will be required to consider its usefulness on a case by case basis. It will 
always be a decision solely for the coroner whether or not to offer the option 
of a non-invasive post mortem.


However, there are, of course, some types of case in which a non-invasive post 
mortem would never be appropriate, for example where the death is known or 
thought to be the result of violent crime.


I look forward to your support for this important measure when it returns to the
House of Commons for further consideration. I thank you for your interest in 
the Coroners and Justice Bill, and have included a copy of this letter for you 
to forward to Mr de Rivaz should you wish to do so.




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Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
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