X-Message-Number: 31835
From: "FlavO Noid" <>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:59:12 -0500
Subject: Jerk this, Rudi

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Thank you for the name-calling.  It tells everyone just what kind of
person you are; saves me the trouble of pointing it out.

Thank you for making it easier on me by promising to ignore me in the
future.  Flame wars are not high on my to-do list.

This is a public forum.  I have no obligation to answer you in private or
to follow your orders to hunt for a website.  However, you did ask what I
found when I pulled "the actual bill up".  You can ignore it, but others
may benefit from some observations.  

Here is a link to the actual Health Care Bill, which you were not
thoughtful enough to provide (because you really hoped no one would look
at it but would gullibly believe the spam message?):

http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf  (warning:  PDF
download, takes bandwidth)

Now to the document Rudi supports and defends, quoted parts of it in
brackets  [ ].

[I know you've all heard lots about Yobama's health care plan.]

This derogatory presentation of President Obama's last name gives us a
pretty good idea of the rightwing fanatical mindset of whoever compiled
this list of items supposedly in the Health Care Plan, but I'll go on to
look at a few:

[Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS
that self insure!!]

No it doesn't.  It mandates that the Govt will study both the "large
group insured and self-insured markets" for a report to Congress to
ensure that the new law is working right.  The word "audit" is not to be
found on this page.

[Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides
what
treatments/benefits you get]

Wrong.  The committee mentioned on that page is a "private-public
advisory committee" to "recommend covered benefits"

[Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!! You can
only get so much "care" per year]

Totally false.  This page has to do with the annual limitation on "cost
sharing".  On page 27 it states the bill "does not impose any annual or
lifetime limit on the coverage of covered health care items and
services".

[PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US
citizens,
illegal or otherwise]

Not a word about citizenship on this page.

[Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances &
a
National ID Healthcard will be issued!]

I don't know of any health benefit plan that does not issue an
identification card you can present to prove your enrolment in it!  The
claim that the "Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances"
is false.  On this page it says "enable the real-time ... determination
of an individual's financial responsibility at the point of service ...";
in other words, what the plan member is responsible to pay.  Nothing to
do with their personal finances.

[Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 your banks
accts
for elective funds transfer]

Wrong again.  Nothing about "your bank accts for elective funds
transfer".  It's about enabling "electronic funds transfers, in order to
allow automated reconciliation with the related health care payment and
remittance advice" which obviously has nothing to do with personal bank
accounts.

That's all I have time to bother with.  Rudi told me I have to kiss his
ass so I have to catch a plane to Florida soon.  I work for the "Govt"
and will be checking his accounts to see if he can be financially
responsible for such service.  It's a rather pricey one.

Flav

No Name
No Organizations
No Braggadocio

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