X-Message-Number: 31850 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Cryonic suspension paid for by health insurance Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:30:14 +0100 Jeff Davis says > I would very much like to see this matter discussed in detail. Unfortunately to have any real benefit it would need to be discussed by people knowledgeable in law and politics, and there are no people within the cryonics movement qualified, and also willing, to give any meaningful ideas beyond a simple one liner "its not possible". People in "the authority business" simply are far too busy making money to give time to these sort of minority ideas. It would take something quite exceptional to get authorities to take time to consider cryonics seriously. The arguments seem plain enough to us, because everyone on this list has taken the time, and indeed is taking the time by reading it. But to someone whose only contact is possibly via entertainment and fiction, and who refuses to give it any thought, cryonics seems ludicrous. I recall that in 1957, the year of the Sputnik, the British Astronomer Royal said "space travel is bunk". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Spencer_Jones It took the exceptional circumstances of the politics surrounding Cold War to put a man on the moon 12 years later. Unfortunately a "cryonics race" never got started, despite the atheism of Communism and the fact that Lenin had been chemically preserved. Rattling the cage of the USSR via Radio Moscow produced a result that mirrored the authorities' opinion in the West. These broadcasts from the 1980s can be heard on http://www.cryonics.org/media/media.htm -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31850