X-Message-Number: 31897 From: Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:39:41 EDT Subject: Re: CryoNet #31892 - #31895 Content-Language: en Hi Dr. Robert Thx for the datum. If the person used common methods of life extension, such as not smoking, weight control, exercise, or heavy supplementation, I will add aC John DoeaC to the list. The aprox age at death would also be useful. There are quite a few supplements that enhance the immune system, so the might contribut to death from septic shock. Folic acid in particular is so necessary for both leukocyte and microbial replication that withdrawal of it is a treatment for sepsis. Thomas In a message dated 8/22/2009 5:00:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, writes: CryoNet - Sat 22 Aug 2009 #31892: Re: CryoNet #31888 - #31891 [ThomasCarter499] #31894: RE: CryoNet #31888 - #31891 [Robert Newport] #31895: Human Lifespans Nearly Constant for 2,000 Years [Mathew Sullivan] 1 message(s) removed from digest due to low reputation. Rate This Digest: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31892%2D31895 Administrivia To subscribe to CryoNet, send email to: with the subject line (not message _body_): subscribe To unsubscribe, use the subject line: unsubscribe Message #31892 From: Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:47:53 EDT Subject: Re: CryoNet #31888 - #31891 Hi Alan, Leaving out the growth hormone/brain cancer connection and Linus Pauling's death at 93, there are only four who died "early" from cancer. Missing from the analysis is the size of the cohort to which they belong, as well as its median age. The cohort is composed of all the people public or private who would have come to my attention as people with life extending life styles who died within the past decade. If this cohort numbers 300 with an average age of 60, about thirty deaths could be expected, with maybe eight cancer deaths. So the hazzard ratio for cancer deaths would be .50 And only eight deaths would have been noticed where thirty would be expected. Since the size of the cohort is unknown no such analysis can be undertaken. The fact that the relative ratio of deaths due to cancer vs vascular disease is independent of the cohort size does allow an investigation into this issue. It should be close to one, but no vascular disease or death has come to my attention. This situation allows an hypothesis that the relative protection from vascular disease is much greater than from cancer. And I for one am beginning to focus my efforts more on prevention of cancer. Thomas Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31892 Message #31894 From: "Robert Newport" <> References: <> Subject: RE: CryoNet #31888 - #31891 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:29:03 -0700 Just one more data point to add to this discussion, One "life extensionist" whom I knew personally, took HGH by injection for four years prior to his death by septic shock secondary to vascular consequences of diabetes. He had no evidence of brain or any other cancer. Dr. Robert Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31894 Message #31895 From: Mathew Sullivan <> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:51:44 -0400 Subject: Human Lifespans Nearly Constant for 2,000 Years --000e0cd4894e5eec100471ad0a3b Human Lifespans Nearly Constant for 2,000 Years: http://www.livescience.com/health/090821-human-lifespans.html --000e0cd4894e5eec100471ad0a3b [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31895 End of CryoNet Digest ********************* Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31897