X-Message-Number: 3193 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:48:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Subject: SCI.CRYONICS Mr.X versus J.C Date sent: 30-SEP-1994 14:48:09 > > J.C versus Mr.X > >The liquid LN may not penetrate but contaminates may. J.C > >Diffuse into a solid at LN2 temperatures? Not bloody likely. Look at >the Ahrenius (sp?) equation some time. Mr.X > >1) The diffusion can take place during the cooling process. J.C > >You are again completely ignorant. By the time the patient hits >nitrogen at all he's already at -100C and is a solid block. Mr.x > >2) The equation you mention is unreliable at low temperatures. J.C > >No its not. It consistantly overestimates if anything. Again, you are >completely ignorant on this. Mr.X > >Only at 0 Kelvin will no diffusion take place. J.C > >Sure, solids diffuse. I'm sure that within five or ten million years >contaminants would work their way at least an inch in. I'd say the >effect is ignorable. Mr.X > >I am glad to see you finally agree. Frozen water is less dense than most >solids and therefore diffusion will take place more rapidly. Checkmate! >Jan (John) Coetzee. > >P.S. I think my reply will help to dump the "Clock" hypothesis on garbage heap >of Bio History. Jan (John) Coetzee. > >Anyone ever tell you you were a megalomaniac and not a very skilled one eit >her? The "cells fight each other" notion sounds rather like bullshit thought > of on a night when you were too drunk. Science is done by performing lots >of research, not by speaking from inspiration gained by navel gazing. Mr.X > >Ever heard about autoimmune diseases and the theory that aging is an >autoimmune disease? Again checkmate! Jan (John) Coetzee. What a nice chat! Jan (John) Coetzee. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=3193