X-Message-Number: 31978
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:30:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Phil Ossifur <>
Subject: CAS Physics -- Wowk's point is valid but should incite CURIOS...

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Flav made a good point about Wowks' potential conflict of interest... but at the
same time, Wowk makes a valid point-- that this Owada CAS effect may not be 
supercooling after all but something different. Wowk's attitude is the problem 
at this point-- He OUGHT to be curious about what IS causing the effect that 
allows the success of monkey ovaries that Davis got that paper on from ABI-- 
especially given Igor's post of independent work on this effect... we'll call it
the magnetic freezing effect... for now... and given Owada's commercial 
success... originally noted in Forbes magazine among other publicaitons in the 
professional food processing publications all over the world. This effect should
continue to be of VITAL INTEREST to 1000 cryonicists... Let's figure this out. 
DO NOT DROP THE TOPIC as Davis dropped it in 2004 and as it has been dropped 
numerous times including mid 2008 when Wowk ended the discussion on CSC Yahoo. 
Don't let Wowk drop it now...

 PUSH... The millionnaires in cryonics OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED for not putting a 
 couple of dollars in the cryonics HOT TIP jar to pursue this... shame on them. 
 Some cryos THEY turned out to be. They're "jokes" in my book. Any one of them 
 could fly to Japan right now and look at this further. But nooooooo! They have 
 to watch their PERP TRUSTS-- "idiots"... If anything proves the cluelessness of
 anyone with money in cryonics, it's THIS event. 

So Wowk pointed to something amazing... even ABI doesn't know what's going on...
they have CREATED the effect... and they have COMMERCIALIZED the Owada effect, 
but they have not sufficiently EXPLAINED it... 

Here's my latest 21st Century Cryonics thread on this... 
(21CC)http://www.network54.com/Forum/641032/message/1253102181/CRYONET




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