X-Message-Number: 31987 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:19:24 +0400 Subject: CAS freezers in Europe From: Alexei Potapov <> >Here is a PDF from the Grimsby institute where its mentioned. http://ktn.globalwatchonline.com/epicentric_portal/binary/com.epicentric.contentmanagement.servlet.ContentDeliveryServlet/FOP/Public/Events/Slide%2520show%2520of%2520events/CAS%2520presentation-%2520mike%2520dillon.pdf Thanks Leo for this pdf. So there's at least 2 more of CAS in Europe - in France and Spain. >If a CAS freezer don't supercool or vitrifies, but keeps cells undamaged by whatever way, then we will find that out later, the important thing is that it (probably) works. What's most important it can (probably) remove at least a part of ice damage. And surely it doesn't have modern vitrification solution nonspecific toxicity effects both during perfusion and thawing. >Maybe somebody must buy a small CAS freezer and experiment with it. Guys from Grimsby institute think to do "commercial research" and they'll got LN2 table top system so no need to buy them. We need just make a good research plan (including contacts with japanese researchers) and fundrise some money. It may be also very important to bring some theoretical calculation before testing CAS. Owada dont need of "ideal" freezing of bio sampes because of it's "food processing" primary goals (like food color or taste). And i'm pretty sure he doesnt do complete frequency spectrum and field intencity research. he just no practical need of it. some parts out of it; >Liquid nitrogen table top system (June 2009 installation) >Desktop CAS system for the preservation of harvested stem cells. >Freeze a Woodfrog or something to liquid Nitrogen temperatures, and try to bring it back to live after that. i think it will be very interesting to low minimal survival temp of Woodfrog or other animal with CAS. -- Cryofreedom.org - free cryonics for community members. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=31987