X-Message-Number: 32077
From: Tripper McCarthy <>
Subject: Re: Melody's comments
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:39:15 +0000

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<< Melody's Comment -

Then, there was the time Alcor tried to pass off a ball peen hammer as a medical
mallet.
>>

<<Keith's reply -
That wasn't needed.  The problem is explaining why it is ok to use
ordinary tools when people are frozen to LN2 temperature.
Microorganisms just are not a problem at that temperature.  And any
technology up to recovering someone will not have any problem sorting
the patient out from other stuff.
>>


I understand your logic here, but from a perception (and PR) standpoint it just 
doesn't look good (or professional) to be using an ordinary hammer and chisel on
a person's body. It also doesn't look good to state that it was a medical 
mallet when it wasn't (at least that is what is alleged - I don't have a link or
quote so I can't really make a stand one way or the other on this).


I think any instrument being used on a patient should be a medical grade 
instrument, if such exists. It should probably be sterilized too for good 
measure. Not to do so (even when reason may dictate that it doesn't really 
matter) just makes us look unprofessional and amateurish. And I don't believe 
this change would be place an undo burden upon Alcor.

<<Melody's comment -
Pouring biohazardous waste down city sewer systems
>>
<< Keith's reply -
Melody, think about it.  Every time you flush the toilet biohazard
waste goes down the city sewer system.  It's the function of sewers
and treatment plants to accept such waste and make it safe
>>


Alcor should follow (if they don't already) all laws and guidelines when 
disposing of biological or hazardous material. A set of standard operating 
procedures should exist for handling these situations both on and off site. It 
isn't fair to put people like Kieth in the situation he was in with no clear 
guidelines of what to do.

Tripper
 		 	   		  
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