X-Message-Number: 32120 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Self-sacrifice - good or bad? Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:26:57 -0000 There is no doubt that self-sacrifice is observable in humans. The perpetrators of the 9/11 atrocity, and suicide bombers in general are examples. But is it a beneficial trait in evolutionary terms between species? I suspect that it may well not. If people were not prone to do it, or be easily persuaded to do it, could wars be possible? The risk of total annihilation of the human species through weapons of mass destruction may have reduced, but it is by no means zero even without the USSR. Maybe Dr Stodolsky is correct from one point of view -- a practitioner of self sacrifice is not going to be drawn to the cryonics movement. Therefore no one with this personality trait is going to be found within it. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more ----- Original Message ----- From: CryoNet To: Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: CryoNet #32114 - #32115 From: David Stodolsky <> <del>. Self-sacrifice is observable in most organisms, at least from worms to humans, evolutionarily speaking. There is good evidence for multi- level evolution, which means there is also a group "survival instinct". <del> Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32120