X-Message-Number: 3214 From: Date: Thu, 06 Oct 94 12:39:03 EDT Subject: SCI. CRYONICS motivation A member of the Cryonics Institute has asked the perennial question: Why are most people apathetic toward cryonics (and for that matter toward life extension in general)? Let me first try briefly to justify using SCI. CRYONICS distribution for my answer. This is fundamentally a question about SCIENCE in the most profound sense--although this is rarely recognized. Most people, including most scientists, think "science" has a limited domain and that other universes of discourse (religion, politics, art, love....) are necessarily and forever outside the purview of science. This view is not only wrong, but potentially FATALLY wrong. Of the many attempted definitions of "science" by prominent scientists, the best is that of Paul Bridgeman, who said that science is just "..doing your utmost with your mind, no holds barred." I like to say that the scientific attitude is characterized primarily by HONESTY and RESOURCEFULNESS. No topic is taboo or incapable of investigation, and our reliance is on EVIDENCE and REASON. (It is also important to add that, while we always prefer quantitative measures and clear ideas, we will use rough numbers and relatively vague ideas when necessary--whatever is at hand or appropriate to the occasion. It is entirely possible to have a useful idea, or the germ of an idea, without yet being able to express it clearly or having quantitative data; and rough numbers that are RELEVANT are much more useful than precise numbers that are not.) It follows that the scientific attitude--and ONLY that--is appropriate to ALL areas of life and thought. (This does NOT mean that, for example, if you feel like playing, you must first analyze the situation and make calculations--unless you have reason to doubt the rationality or appropriateness of this particular choice at this time.) It also follows that the most important priority for anyone is to define your priorities, from the top down. What do you want? What SHOULD you want (if you use the scientific approach)? Then, what is your best strategy for achieving it? Hardly anyone has ever done this in anything approaching a systematic way. It will take at least a book-length effort (which I have undertaken) to make this thesis clear, persuasive, and useful. For the moment, I assume that the main goal of any rational person is to maximize personal satisfaction over future time. This will almost always place self preservation or life extension as top priority. (This does NOT mean that we are hedonists or short-sighted or even "selfish" in the usual sense; the complete discussion is long and full of subtleties.) This introduction has been longer than the following specific comments on the original question--why the apathy toward life extension? There are several overlapping answers: 1. Inertia--personal and that of history or tradition. 2. Unless a danger is clear and present, the so-called instinct of self-preservation seldom comes into play. (Consider how long it took to reduce smoking by any significant amount, or how few people save their money in prudent fashion.) A benefit--no matter how huge in potential--which is not guaranteed, and lies in an uncertain future, may not provide much incentive for most people. 3. Young and healthy people usually feel no urgency, while old and sick people usually lack the strength or drive and only want surcease. They not only do not want to live, but do not want to want to live. They do not understand that the difference between apathy and hope, or despair and zest, may be just a few hormones. 4. Defeat, surrender, and obedience to authority have their compensations, as opposed to struggle and responsibility. Dostoevsky said, "Men prefer peace, even death, to freedom of choice in the knowledge of good and evil." 5. Most people accept the "prevailing opinion" of so-called experts. This is often a reasonable strategy--but not when the "experts" are wrong and life is at stake. The Cryonics Institute and the other cryonics organizations have evidence available that should be persuasive to anyone--scientist or layman--with an open mind. (Confucius say, man with hole in head have open mind.) 6. Rich and influential people often provide leadership in new enterprises, but they are even less likely than others to go beyond prevailing "expert opinion." (However, a few big-rich people have now begun to join the cryonics groups.) ....There is more, but I'll stop here for now. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=3214