X-Message-Number: 32186 References: <> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:23:10 -0600 Subject: Re: CryoNet #32182 - #32184 From: Freeposity <> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:00 AM, CryoNet <> wrote: > CryoNet - Mon 30 Nov 2009 > Message #32182 > From: Mark Plus <> > Subject: "What's Really Wrong With Cryonics" > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:28:01 -0800 > > http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2009/11/whats_really_wr.html > > NOVEMBER 29, 2009 > What's Really Wrong With Cryonics > Bryan Caplan > > > >What disturbed me was when I realized how low he set his threshold for success. Robin didn't care about biological survival. He >didn't need his brain implanted in a cloned body. He just wanted his neurons preserved well enough to "upload himself" into a >computer. > > To my mind, it was ridiculously easy to prove that "uploading yourself" isn't life extension. "An upload is merely a simulation. It wouldn't be you," I remarked. "It would if the simulation were accurate enough," he told me. > It sounds to me that the author is suffering from future shock(SL3 or SL4)*. With a good enough simulation you wouldn't be able to tell if you are biological or a computer simulation. Indeed we could all be simulations now. Once the technology is perfected it seems to me that a natural offshoot of cryonics would be perfect digital preservation of the brain. This would take up less space, cost less and allow for fault tolerance in the form of multiple backups. With a perfect digital backup of the brain it should be possible to correct for any damage done during cryopreservation/death. Then you could have the option of living in a "virtual world" or having a new body cloned. *see http://www.sl4.org/shocklevels.html -- Your friendly neighborhood agnostic atheist and reality based hope monger Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32186