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From: David Stodolsky <>
Subject: Re: What Darwin Got Wrong
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:45:50 +0100
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On 18 Feb 2010, at 11:00 AM, CryoNet wrote:

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> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:00 AM, David Stodolsky <>  
> wrote:
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> snip
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>> This doesn't address the argument in the original article. Regardless
>> of what Dawkins himself believes, the "Selfish Gene" concept as been
>> used to support a range of social darwinistic policies.
>
> Probably so.  Can you provide pointers to some of them?  It is not a
> legit use of the selfish gene concept.

While the term itself is not used in the professional literature, the  
individualism implied has played a major role in, for example, the  
debates about group selection in evolutionary theory, in Friedman's  
and related economic theories, in certain lines of research in  
artificial intelligence, such as genetic algorithms, etc. So, the  
concept has served as a lens through which many of the 'soft' science  
questions have been viewed over the last thirty years.

The originally cited author points to the neo-liberal policies of  
Thatcher and Reagan. These economic policies have been used to  
transfer wealth to the rich. The net effect has been harmful to  
cryonics, since it reduces the number of persons who have sufficient  
economic reserves for suspension. Regardless of arguments that  
cryonics is 'cheap' via life insurance, the data show that atheist  
millionaires are the target population of current marketing efforts.  
Only about 12% of the World's population are within the formal  
economy. The rest are excluded from even considering suspension. The  
current economic collapse, resulting from market fundamentalism, and  
the resulting transformed expectations of consumers has also removed  
large numbers of persons from potential membership in cryonics  
organizations.

Since economic instability is contributory to religious belief, which  
in turn is the best predictor of support for cryonics, the continuing  
dominance of market fundamentalism is indirectly reducing cryonics  
enrollments. Therefore, the "Selfish Gene" concept has been  
contributory to reduction in signups both directly, due to economic  
limitations, and indirectly due to promotion of religiosity.


The economism / market fundamentalism justified by the Concept also  
contributed to the CryoCare fiasco, an ideologically motivated attempt  
at social reorganization of the cryonics enterprise. What solid  
scientific results we do have about what would be a more effective  
social organization of the cryonics enterprise has been ignored. This  
can be attributed to the extreme individualism rampant in much of the  
cryonics movement. And here we  can make the transition from the  
ridiculous - the idea that greed is the only human motive worth  
considering - to the absurd, with the idea that the 'meme' concept  
will be useful in solving the marketing problems of cryonics. The  
sooner this pop science is replace by a professional approach to the  
marketing of cryonics, the sooner we will see improvements. Failure to  
do so will lead to the end of the hope that the movement will become a  
major social force, and perhaps the end of the movement and loss of  
all investments that have been made.


>
> It is a legitimate use to invoke selfish gene/evolutionary psychology
> concept to *understand* or try to understand social phenomena.  I have
> done it myself in tying the Patty Hearst kidnapping, army basic
> training and SMBD all to one evolved psychological mechanism, capture
> bonding.

I am not aware of any use of the term "selfish gene" among  
professional biological or social scientists. So, good luck with your  
reinvention of social and evolutionary psychology. A review of the  
literature will get you a lot farther and reduce the risk that you  
will be regarded as a crank by the professionals in these fields.  
Social identity theory is often used to explain the above type of  
phenomena:


<http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120185297/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
 >

Social Identity Theory and Self-categorization Theory: A Historical  
Review

The social identity approach (comprising social identity theory and  
self-categorization theory) is a highly influential theory of group  
processes and intergroup relations, having redefined how we think  
about numerous group-mediated phenomena. Since its emergence in the  
early 1970s, the social identity approach has been elaborated, re- 
interpreted, and occasionally misinterpreted. The goal of this paper  
is to provide a critical, historical review of how thinking and  
research within the social identity approach has evolved. The core  
principles of the theories are reviewed and discussed, and their  
effect on the field assessed. Strengths and limitations of the  
approach are discussed, with an eye to future developments.



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