X-Message-Number: 325 From att!garnet.berkeley.edu!quaife Thu May 9 20:02:51 PDT 1991 Date: Thu, 9 May 91 20:02:51 PDT From: Message-Id: <> To: Subject: #321, #322 cryolist.asc 5/9/91 Reply to #321, questions of Hal Finney 1. The company was incorporated in November, 1987 as TRANS TIME MEDICAL PRODUCTS, as a spinoff from TRANS TIME. About 4 months later, they changed their name to Cryomedical Sciences. 2. Trans Time and Cryomedical are separate companies. Trans Time owned stock in Cryomedical, and our researchers Drs. Paul Segall, Hal Sternberg, and Harold Waitz were also the principal researchers in Cryomedical. But there came a shifting of goals in Cryomedical, and the researchers were being hampered in their continued efforts to develop the blood substitute for which we are famous. So we negotiated the agreement whereby Cryomedical bought back all of Trans Time's stock for $560,000, and bought back our researcher's stock for seven figure amounts. 3. Cryomedical raised money first by a private placement, next by a public offering, and latest by calling outstanding warrants. They have raised about $13,000,000 so far. Their two principal products under development are the blood substitute developed by our researchers, and a cryoprobe for use in surgery that was developed by other researchers. I am amazed at what Trans Time and colleagues have been able to achieve in the past, starting from a shoestring bedroom operations of 20 years ago. But we still need hundreds of millions of dollars for research in perfecting cryonic suspension techniques. I believe we -- with our colleagues in BioTime -- are on the best track toward raising that magnitude of money. Indeed, our recent triumphs have already demonstrated that. ----------------------------- Reply to #322, Simon In the year and a half I have been on this mailing list, most of the postings have concerned Alcor. But Alcor is NOT the only cryonics organization around. TRANS TIME's history goes back as far as theirs does. Indeed, back around 1976, we bought our Alcor's compatriot profit-oriented organization Manrise Corp., then headed by the most energetic and talented Fred and Linda Chamberlain, and merged it into Trans Time. I have personally been actively involved in cryonics since the end of 1964. Surely there is space on this bulletin board to hear other viewpoints than Alcor's. While in many ways they are going great guns, I think they are hooked into the wrong (non-profit) model, and they will watch with wonder as the commercial organizations (Trans Time and BioTime) raise huge amounts of money for research to perfect suspension procedures -- while providing a return to their investors. As to Simon's concern for media attention to cryonics: Trans Time has been covered in the press for 19 years. It has been rare that the media has done a hatchet job on us. We have almost always been taken seriously, in part because of the credentials of our scientific staff (all Ph.D's, for starters). The worst cryonics publicity that has been generated in the past decade concerned the Dora Kent affair, and that was all Alcor's doing. The macabre spectacle of the ghouls sawing off her head, while she was still alive, with her son urging them on, shocked many people. (I am NOT NOT NOT saying that was the reality of what happened, but that is initially what the media reported). Surely the fact that Mrs. Kent was a neuro case was a major cause of that publicity disaster. Trans Time does not promote or emphasize neuropreservation (although we have done it in the past and will honor contract requests that we do it again). And yes, at present no-one can offer a definitive argument that will terminate the debate over neuropreservation. May we all be around for the eternity it will take to terminate the debate! And I will buy a round of drinks for all who are there at the conclusion. Art Quaife, President Trans Time, Inc. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=325