X-Message-Number: 3258 From: Subject: SCI.CRYONICS Cryonics History Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 22:10:00 -0700 (PDT) I'd like to thank Mike Darwin for posting that article of his wrt the failure of CSNY/CryoSpan/CSC. As usual, there's far too much there to dissect and reply to (a few jabs at Dave Pizer added in), so I'll just make a few comments and spare others the bandwidth. Your post was quite literate as always, and further sustained my contention that the principals (at least of CSNY & CryoSpan) KNEW ahead of time that the costs of storing a patient over the long haul would be exorbitant. As you said, they depended on future business revenues to bail them out since they knew nobody had lots of money to put into cryonics, which leads me to believe that they must have contemplated disaster at the outset at least as a possibility. With regard to your swipes at Pizer, I don't agree that Dave posted out of malice or out of stupidity, more like *fear* that what happened 25 years ago at CSNY might reoccurr since Kent was instrumental in the formation of CryoCare. In his own way, Dave's just trying to get to the bottom of what happened. On the issue of who needs to learn the lessons of the past, I submit that Alcor has learned that lesson (see their published exhaustive financial analysis of funding costs and their resulting actions) and also taken precautions to prevent another tragedy by distancing itself from Mr. Kent and the cryonics organizations he is now associated with. Ever forward, David Standard disclaimer: I don't speak for any of the cryonics organizations, and they don't speak for me. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Cosenza PGP 2.3a Public Key available by finger _or_ ftp.netcom.com:/pub/dcosenza PGP 2.3a Key fingerprint = BF 6C AA 44 C6 CA 13 3F 4A EC 0A 90 AE F3 74 6D "When encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption." Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=3258