X-Message-Number: 32611 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:27:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Melody Maxim <> Subject: Silver Platters Ignored, in Cryonics The television show, (recently mentioned on Cryonet), regarding a toddler who was revived after wandering off into the snow, doesn't reflect any great new knowledge. The little girl was clinically dead, with a core temperature of 16 degrees Celsius, when she arrived at the hospital, where she was successfully rewarmed and resuscitated. Cardiovascular surgeons and neurosurgeons have been successfully using deep hypothermia (18-degrees Celsius, and below) combined with circulatory arrest (DHCA), for more than half a century. This technology was based on cases similar to the little girl's, and is the medical science on which cryonics should be based. The medical procedures and equipment needed, for delivering cryonics solutions to patients, (basically, the same equipment and techniques used to perform DHCA), were handed to cryonics organizations on a silver platter, decades ago, courtesy of conventional medicine. Why the organizations have wasted somewhere in the neighborhood of four decades, and many, many millions of dollars, building their own equipment, is truly perplexing. For example, a heart-lung machine will maintain given parameters (flows, pressures, etc.), for a number of pumps; react to air by clamping lines and shutting off pumps; monitor in-line labs (such as blood gases); and automatically produce a detailed record (chart). Other than minor variations, I believe the only truly unique additional feature needed for a vitrification circuit would be something to accommodate the ramping of the vitrification solution. Even this has a basis in existing technology, as many heart-lung machines already allow for varying concentrations of cardioplegia to be delivered, using the same bag of solution. This relies on someone determining the concentration to be delivered, but it should be possible to develop a system, which would operate on concentration feedback and pre-determined parameters/delivery protocols. (IMPORTANT: When I suggest something should be "developed," I mean by companies, which specialize in developing this type of equipment, not by an amateur who just happens to be working in cryonics, or a friend of someone who is working in cryonics, who will sit around writing programs on their laptop, for years, all the while charging excessive "consulting" fees. It is that type of foolishness, which has kept cryonics in the dark ages of hypothermic medicine.) Not long after I started working in cryonics, in 2006, I took a tour of the Alcor facility, during their conference. At the time, (not being familiar with the amount of time and money, which had already been invested), I thought I was witnessing a case of people not being aware of existing equipment, or not having enough money to purchase existing "state of the art" perfusion equipment. The vitrification circuit didn't even begin to compare to perfusion circuits I had been using, more than a decade prior to that time. The field perfusion circuit had the oxygenator placed higher than the reservoir, (something almost guaranteed to introduce air to patients, a problem I've heard Alcor has been plagued with, over the years). The perfusion equipment is of paramount importance, to cryonics procedures. So, why did the perfusion equipment, at both Alcor and Suspended Animation, mostly resemble amateur DIY projects, less than four years ago? My guess is, for the money they have spent on salaries and consulting fees related to their perfusion equipment, over the years, those two companies could have purchased quite a few top-of-the-line heart-lung machines, and outsourced the development of the vitrification solution ramping system to a company capable of completing the project, at a reasonable cost and within a reasonable amount of time. I'm guessing little has changed, at Alcor, and I believe the only reason the field equipment changed at SA, was in response to my public criticisms I believe my criticisms are accurate, when applied to a lot of cryonics equipment. There are reputable companies, which specialize in building cryogenic cooldown boxes and shipping containers, and others that develop and produce automatic chest compression devices. Suspended Animation should have called those manufacturers, regarding the projects they were doing four years ago, (as was suggested to them, at the time). Instead, they invested well into six figures, (with the lion's share being man-hours paid to two people), and at least three years, on their Autopulse modification project, only to have a division of Medtronic announce their affordable battery-powered "Lucas 2" device. When I resigned from SA, people were running out to Home Depot, to purchase materials for the cooldown box project, when the cost of a professionally-built, custom-made cryogenic container wouldn't have been much more than one week of man-hours, for the two people working on SA's project. Then, there's the liquid ventilation project, which according to LEF's magazine, was complete except for portability, back in February 2000. A big deal was made of this project, more than seven years later, at the 2007 Alcor conference, where it was announced the device was more efficient, but still not portable. How many man-hours have been paid to a handful of people for these seemingly-endless, mostly-fruitless cryonics projects, over the years? How many dogs has CCR subjected to experimentation, for such projects? Might the projects have been finished, years ago, if they had been outsourced to reputable manufacturers of similar devices? In recent years, many respectable research institutions have been investigating methods of inducing hypothermia in a field setting, (and some of those investigations have included lung lavage with perfluorocarbons). For a very long time, I have been convinced there's a handful of people, with a lot of influence in cryonics, who have limited skills and talent, when it comes to building medical equipment and/or performing medical procedures, and I think they do whatever is necessary, to protect their own incomes, and those of their "loyal" friends, (sort of a nerdy version of "good ol' boy politics"). Witness what happened, after I went public with my criticisms of Suspended Animation's activities. A physician who has ties to Alcor, Critical Care Research, 21CM, Suspended Animation, and even Cryonics Institute, posted a number of blatant lies about me, on the Internet. This person didn't know me. He worked in California and, by his own admission, had no firsthand knowledge of my daily activities at SA, in Florida, but that didn't stop him from making false accusations, in response to criticisms of an organization funded by his benefactors. I think the level of corruption, in cryonics, is truly astounding, and I fail to understand why people who have, repeatedly, engaged in questionable behaviors continue to be revered, in cryonics. I think it should be obvious people like these, not only hold cryonics back, but drag it down. Think of some of the most well-known names in cryonics, and ask how many of them would be considered credible witnesses, in a court of law. If Alcor doesn't settle the Johnson case, or win it based on his alleged obligations to not disclose information about their activities, who is going to testify on Alcor's behalf, if Johnson's audiotapes are played in court? In response to my repeated criticisms, some people have asked me to quit criticizing and make constructive suggestions. It's unreasonable to expect anyone to instruct a pool of mostly-unqualified people on how to perform the well-established tasks of paramedics, vascular surgeons and perfusionists, (especially when the previous response to polite suggestions has been a series of attempts to undermine such suggestions in favor of keeping things the same, followed by lies and personal attacks). Cryonics organizations need strong leaders, who will build on existing "state of the art," equipment, related to conventional hypothermic medicine, not highly-paid, underqualified people who will keep trying to "reinvent the wheel," with the apparent goal of maintaining the status quo. Again, the equipment needed to perform chest compressions, ventilate patients, administer IV meds, perform vascular cannulations and perfusion was, basically, perfected decades ago. If the people funding cryonics activities aren't aware of this, I can't help but believe it's because a handful of people have a strong financial interest in making cryonics mostly a never-ending DIY amateur equipment engineering project. It would be much more productive, and a lot less costly, to purchase existing equipment and outsource any needed modifications, to reputable manufacturers of such equipment. Then, all the millions, which are being spent on these projects could be spent on hiring competent care providers; developing better washout and vitrification solutions; perfecting cooling and storage parameters; and thinking about future reanimation efforts, (none of these "DIY" projects, to be assigned to amateurs). Here are some suggestions, for changing the image, and technological status, of cryonics organizations, (not necessarily in order of importance): 1. Enlist leaders who are familiar with protocols, techniques and equipment, currently being used in conventional hypothermic medical procedures, and build on what already exists. 2. Outsource engineering projects to companies, which manufacture similar medical equipment, and quit wasting time and money on DIY garage projects. 3. Invest in ensuring activities, (including those of field teams), will not be in violation of state and/or federal law. 4. Cut all ties with people who have repeatedly engaged in questionable activities, related to their work in cryonics. 5. Don't mistake a willingness to engage in questionable behaviors, which bring negative attention to cryonics, as "loyalty." 6. Establish a policy of holding members accountable for ensuring their wishes for cryopreservation will be carried out. Things like fighting for someone who has been buried (decaying) for more than a year, comes at the cost of public ridicule and a huge financial drain. (Think "Tragedy of the Commons.") 7. Invest in reputable organizations performing research, related to hypothermia. There are plenty of respectable research organizations and scientists currently investigating hypothermic technologies, which may be of benefit to cryonics. 8. Hire professionals to perform medical procedures, and quit allowing unqualified persons to perform vascular cannulations and other medical procedures. Competency in performing these procedures requires a significant amount of properly supervised instruction and experience. Attempting to train unqualified persons, by allowing them to "play doctor" with dead pigs, a few times a year, is only going to result in more (well-deserved) ridicule. The bottom line: Unless cryonicists want another 40 years of little progress, and lots of scandal, some of the faces need to change, starting at the top. It doesn't matter how much money any given benefactor pours in. Unless it is funding progress, that money is of no benefit to anyone, other than those on the payroll. Melody Maxim Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32611