X-Message-Number: 32742 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:30:43 +0200 Subject: The biggest victim of The Long Life Magazine, The Cryonics In... From: Jonano <> You have no right to publish personal and confidential data such as a mental disease of a person without his agreement, you are a criminal. I valuate my lost of about 30 000$ because of this article over the years (6). The article was assembled by John De Rivaz (some people say it's John Bull now, will we know who did one day ? for sure ? It seems that people are not jostling to author this work/article), who for the reason of being "mentally cleaned by a cryonics organisation" put together an article to create a sensation for his "institute", on the back of a young ambitious, optimist, constructive open minded boy, welcoming all friends. The problem with this article is that people falsely accused Jonathan (me) of all the problems in the cryonics industry at that time. To be sure to understand this matter, the Cryonics Institute have a monopoly on cryonics with Alcor and they want to keep it. Alcor does not comment any legal matter in the public, something the Cryonics Institute does (its magazine: Long Life). If you would be this person who got accused and ridiculized in public, would you love this place/situation? The Long Life magazine with this article destroyed all my friendships in this community with false accusations, destroyed my chance to succeed in business, as well as a way to get a better job. In this article some people (who wrote about me (?)) asked to be removed and finally they got removed. I asked many time, on a period of 5 years to remove this article, by all means, they have no ethics, no heart, because they keep the article even if they know it's making harm on a personal level. It is hardly difficult to build a public image with this article on internet when you type my name jonathan despres on google. People who accused me, and who will remove the false claims and from who I wait their excuses: Jonathan Hinek (founder of Cryonics Cafe/Cold Filter one of the biggest defamation hub against Alcor, Saul Kent (etc?), most notably), Eugen Leitl (originator of this label), Bill Smith, Rudi Hoffman, and the main man who assembled the article (the attack) and who didnot put his name on the article: John De Rivaz (or John Bull, we dont know). Some comments about the article itself: 1) Rudi Hoffman did want to join my conference, but after many negatives comments on me, begun to lie on our relation. 2) I have no mental disease. I'm a normal introvert. 3) They have no permission to use my name. More text: Jonathan Despres is a well known 3 traps victim of cryonics. I suggest some others have been victim of it too. 3 cryonics traps envisioned by Charles Platt: Trap #1. "Our organization needs help. If you do your thing instead of helping us, you will weaken us. If we collapse, you will have nothing. Therefore, you should NOT COMPETE WITH US." I call this "The Whining Monopoly Scenario" since the organization seeks to preserve a monopoly of its market segment by whining about its delicate condition. Trap #2. "Our organization cares for cryonics patients who must be protected at all costs. If you criticize our organization or reveal embarrassing facts, you will empower hostile legislators or others who will try to shut us down. Therefore, you should say NOTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT US." I call this "The Perpetual Hostage Scenario," since the cryonics patients are serving exactly the same role as hostages. Trap #3. "You'll be dead before you have time to build a new organization to save yourself." I guess the only answer there would be to establish your organization as a cult and surround yourself with young acolytes. Finally: The Long life magazine did wrote a bad article. They never had, or got my permission to use my name on their site and to destroy my reputation. My battle to get removed this article did made me sadness, frustration, and destroyed my reputation and is still doing it. I dont have any disease called Social Anxiety and I work every day of the week. (as an internet marketer) My reputation on Cryonet droped because of this article. I am not a danger of cryonics (I am rather a victim). If I have a chance to get enough money, I will sue the magazine and ask to remove this article. Recently, because of this paper, Rudi Hoffman et al, asked their friends to block my account on Facebook, they would probably like to see me dead too. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32742