X-Message-Number: 32854 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:12:49 -0700 (PDT) From: david pizer <> Subject: open letter to Robert Ettinger Robert 'Been reading your posts about why uploading is not survival of a person. You are still (after all these years) the smartest person in cryonics in an all-around way. (and by the way, unsurpassed in ethics and morality also). I think the point that uploading lovers are missing is that - yes information can someday be loaded into a computer that mimics a natural person, but - no that thing is NOT the person that it mimics. You are arguing about what it is that makes a person a person, they are arguing that uploading will be able to create something that seems like a person. Having existed with Uploading Lovers (heck some of them are even my friends) for many years now, I believe they are as firmly entrenched in their beliefs as traditional religious persons believe that their souls are going to Heaven after death here on Earth (I have some of these friends too and I hope they are right, but I am not canceling my arrangements for cryonics suspension at legal death). Best regards, David Pizer Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32854