X-Message-Number: 32862 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:23:12 +0200 Subject: Uploading From: Eivind Berge <> Uploading never particularly appealed to me, but after reading Mark Gubrud's article "Why Transhumanism Won't Work" and the comments, I am actually more inclined to believe it might work after all as survival (but I still wouldn't want it except as a last resort). Gubrud apparently fails to understand some very basic philosophical concepts, so it's hard to take him seriously. I had to read the comments to appreciate how bad his piece really is, and Gubrud doesn't do a good job defending it, either. Max More pointed out he can't tell dualism from functionalism, for one thing, and I especially liked the comments of Philippe Verdoux, who wrote a detailed response: Why "Why Transhumanism Won't Work" Won't Work http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/verdoux20100624/ I don't know much philosophy either, but then I don't make bombastic claims about it. If Gubrud's piece is the best anyone can do to argue against uploading, it seems to me the matter is no closer to being settled. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32862