X-Message-Number: 32869 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: david pizer <> Subject: uploading thought experiment Here is a thought experiment that should show you why uploading will not work as a survival option for you. I explained this to Mike Perry about 25 years ago. 1. If you can upload a real person's mind into a computer, then you can also make a duplicate of that real person. 2. Imagine a duplicate of YOU has been made. 3. They bring the duplicate of YOU into the room across from you and you become convinced that the duplicate has your exact mind and is a duplicate of you in every way. 4. Then they point a gun at you and say "Since you are convinced the duplicate is an exact copy of you, do YOU mind if we kill you now and let the duplicate exist on?" 5. Even if you thought that the duplicate was an exact copy of you, you would not want them to shoot YOU. Why? Because somewhere in YOUR mind you would realize that the duplicate was not YOU. Perhaps YOU cannot completely realize that the duplicate is not YOU until you are faced with the prospect of the duplicate continuing on and YOU becoming dead and ceasing to exist. It is when one thinks of himself stopping to exist that they realize that a duplicate continuing on is not them surviving. Until you are ready to say "no, I don't mind" (without any other conditions) when they ask if you mind if they kill you and just let the duplicate continue on, then you don't really believe that any duplicate is you. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32869