X-Message-Number: 32909 From: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 14:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 15th reason why uploading is unlikely Content-Language: en I had said I planned to post one reason per week, but have speeded things up a bit, since I have a sense that most of what is likely to be said soon has been said. So, onward. I recently thought of a 15th reason. Like the others, it's not conclusive, but I like it, and offer it here out of turn, but keeping the number 15. 15. Cruel world. It has been argued that, if uploading becomes possible, and more generally the creation of virtual worlds, then there will be scads of virtual worlds and any world chosen at random is almost sure to be a virtual one. However, it seems likely that virtual worlds will tend to be pleasant ones, since the programmers are unlikely to be sadists. Yet the world we see or whose past we infer is overwhelmingly a cruel one, built that way. Throughout almost all of history and prehistory, life on average for individuals of all sentient species has been one of misery, especially near the beginning and near the end, which are dominated by suffering and death. Viewed from the birth end, a relatively high birth rate is necessary to maintain population, because otherwise the high death rate would soon result in extinction. (Almost all species have gone extinct anyway.) Viewed from the death end, a relatively high death rate is required to prevent catastrophic explosions of population. (A hefty part of the deaths have occurred in youth, infant mortality having been high in all species except some recent human communities. For most of history and prehistory, only a minority lived to become adults.) I sometimes wondered what squirrels found to eat, where there weren't any oak trees. Turns out that, among other things, they eat baby birds in their nests. Once more"savor the bitterness of it--this suffering is built into the system. Any hypothesis that says we are typical must account for the prevailing misery. (This is similar to the old "problem of evil" but clearer and more pervasive.) Robert Ettinger Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32909