X-Message-Number: 32911 References: <> From: Gerald Monroe <> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 04:17:47 -0500 Subject: Re: CryoNet #32905 - #32910 --00163628377468996a0491ef41c7 The arguments against uploading assume that we would need a perfect simulation of the physics of the human brain in order for the uploaded entity to be intelligent and a reasonable facsimile of the uploaded personality. Nothing could be farther from the case. It's a common misconception that because neuroscientists don't understand many things about the human brain, therefore they know nothing of relevance to this question. Actually, we do know that the human brain is incredibly noisy. Neurons are unreliable and operate just barely above the noise threshold for the environment of the axons. Synthetic and natural compounds act as contaminants and can change the firing properties of neurons yet the brain continues to operate, albeit with reduced performance. What this means is a good enough simulation would not have to be particularly accurate with respect to the firing threshold of individual neurons. Most subtle effects could probably be ignored or approximated, and the overall entity would still work. Of course, your simulation would still need to simulate 100 billion neurons with an average of 7000 synapses each, which would require a mountain of hardware using today's tech. And there's a lot of other features : the brain absolutely has to have a body, or an excellent simulation of one, or it will not activate at all. But wait, you say, I don't want to be a "good enough" computer simulation because that wouldn't be me. Perhaps, but even a "good enough" simulation where you are able to access most of your memories and have super-intelligence is far better than death. --00163628377468996a0491ef41c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32911