X-Message-Number: 32915 From: Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: after Gerald Moore See below. My question is not whether a simulation could be "intelligent" but whether it could have feeling or life-as-we-know-it. This is not a matter of accuracy of simulation, but whether a mere collection of symbols can have consciousness. It seems very clear to me that it cannot. Robert Ettinger Message #32911 References: <> From: Gerald Monroe <> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 04:17:47 -0500 Subject: Re: CryoNet #32905 - #32910 --00163628377468996a0491ef41c7 The arguments against uploading assume that we would need a perfect simulation of the physics of the human brain in order for the uploaded entity to be intelligent and a reasonable facsimile of the uploaded personality. Nothing could be farther from the case. [more] Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32915