X-Message-Number: 32928 From: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Refence Cryonet 32915 boundary="part1_238ec.3bf9b2a1.39e60909_alt_boundary" Reference to Ettinger's point if the program can create a way to facilitate "not whether a simulation could be "intelligent" but whether it could have feeling or life-as-we-know-it" it has always fascinated me certain patterns in the study of bio-informatics. These patterns exist either in organic systematics or in a machine language that is reading data from organic systematics. And it turns out that the data of the DNA is in many segments for all life-forms a repeating code not even much distinct from a small worm to a human being. Only in the small segments of the code is anything distinct to the human genomics apart fom most any animal larger than the head of a pin. From this recipe in the biological information directing multicellular organization everything else extends in the organization of the organism so that a human being is launched on a cognitive journey. The computer can now read the DNA. That is not the equation that is the challenge for the task of upload of a human adult central nervous system expressing as a dynamically alive person. And computers can easily pick up and monitor the 60 cycles per second brain-wave of the alert human brain. But it is the collective process both of the structure built by the DNA coded instruction of physical biology and the dynamics of process in that living structure also integrative of behavior modifications which will be the product of learning within the organization of that human brain. So it is a complex system of several levels of systematics. But none of this is beyond the total set of research materials in current and real science. We don't need to stop as if some kind of cosmic mystery holds back research operations. I developed the language math system as an undergraduate student talking to Dr. Whitehead at Drake University in 1982, which I copyrighted in (1987)the now patented (Popular Science, Nov 1999, Bancroft et al.) that can expedite with mathematics what the DNA would be from the 23 amino acids. The point is precisely what Ettinger identifies as "structure and function, and then used this description to construct another description, the simulation" which a computer IT systematics approaches differently than organic molecules do. If the reliability of the structure of the information results in the accurate identification of the thing that would be the organic structure and dynamics, the result is mathematically facilitated regardless of the rest. What is not in this design is predictive dynamics. If a thing is cognative in cyberspace, it is not possible to predict what future language events or other cognitions will result in that dynamics process. To facilitate the opportunity to be there is one thing, to say it will be a good life is another. But is that anything resolved here and now with what is already existential here and now anyway? Let us not get tied up in the parts of this question that have never been resolved by anyone in history to date. Let's fix what we can and try to do no harms where we can not fix it, and in any case not worry about what is still going to be a problem tomorrow. Some of the problem will remain before us 200 years from now but it was there 500 years ago and we were not stopped by that? It should not stop our sincere effort today. I give a simple Excel 97 and VBA examples of my amino-acid sequencing code for an example of how simple the computer reduces some of these complex biology codons as an information storage process. S Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=32928