X-Message-Number: 33145 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Just a thought Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:20:27 -0000 I was speaking to someone over the holidays who said that he would never consider cryopreservation on account of the risk of a revival into a hellish future. I countered that it is easy enough to make people. If your sole purpose is to enjoy their suffering, why go to the trouble of reviving and rejuvenating a cryopreserved patient. However this was insufficient in terms of a "sound byte" to convince him. There have been dystopic science fiction novels written about revivals into less than satisfactory futures, but they usually have "our hero" winning through in the end. Linda Negata's Tech Heaven is one http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=B0049U48XC/longevitybooksA/ and Larry Niven's World Out of Time is another http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0345336968/longevitybooksA/ Dr Thomas Donaldson, now in cryopreservation with Alcor, once said of the latter that he didn't like it much as the hero was "batted about the universe like a ping pong ball". But after various trials and tribulations Niven's character did get a star ship all of his own, which can't be bad! [I always thought that the USS Enterprise with its huge crew was really a wooden sailing ship in disguise. With automation, one person could fly a star ship on his own as did Corbell.] -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more ----- Original Message ----- Message #33143 From: "Chris Manning" <> Subject: Just a thought Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:10:50 +1100 Just a thought I had recently which I will share with other cryonicists for what it may be worth (maybe 2c Australian). There are many possible scenarios in which revival from cryopreservation will be technically possible but problematic for other reasons, <del> Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33145