X-Message-Number: 33148 References: <> From: Gerald Monroe <> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:42:20 -0600 Subject: Re: CryoNet #33139 - #33144 --0015175ce086662878049868b3ac Simplifying it : the edema damages neurons enough that they won't restart. (nor will a flooded engine, or a jammed machine). But since biological enzymes aren't functional near 0 degrees C, neurons have probably not been able to catalyze the self destructive processes that neurons perform when they think they are damaged beyond repair. Hence, if a patient were stored at near 0 C for 24 hours, there's still a reasonable chance that their brain contains the information that cryonics tries to preserve. But it isn't ideal : ideal cryonics preservation freezes the brain before an hour of cold ischemia has occurred (before that point CPR and bypass machines are used to actively prevent ischemia). The reason this is ideal is that the maximum chance of survival according to current science would be to put the brain in state at low temperature that we know is revivable, and then to freeze it preventing any further biochemical change at all from that start. Since the brain is composed of complex molecular structures, even though we cannot prove for certain that revival is possible, we can show that it is virtually certain that the information needed to perform a revival has been preserved. --0015175ce086662878049868b3ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33148