X-Message-Number: 33165 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 20:55:22 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Cryopreservation since 1990 > Mike Darwin wrote: >> Finally, the quality of cryopreservation most patients are now receiving >> is dismal and has, on average, deteriorated since 1990. > > Brian Wowk wrote: > statement is not supportable. The single greatest change that has > occurred in cryonics since the 1990s is the switch to higher > concentrations of cryoprotectants, which has a dramatic effect on > structural preservation > Brian, Brian, Brian, you ought to know better than to disagree with Mike. Mike Darwin has long developed the annoying habit of always being right. So anyone who disagrees with him is automatically always wrong. Quote from Ben Best in the November-December 2010 issue of Long Life: "in about four months CI has taken-in six new patients. Five of those patients were recieved on dry ice, only the sixth was perfused." Any alleged increases in concentrations of cryoprotectants during perfusion are moot, since 83% of CI's patients are currently not being perfused. The blunt fact of the matter is that CI has devolved into a Cryo-cemetery for mostly straight frozen corpses. Mike has commented before on the divorce between Cryonics Science, which is improving, and clinical practice, which is - as Mike has stated, is deteriorating. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33165