X-Message-Number: 33180 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:04:37 -0500 From: "Perry E. Metzger" <> Subject: Re: Girard estate References: <> On 2 Jan 2011 10:00:02 -0000 CryoNet <> wrote: > Message #33175 > Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:38:53 -0700 > Subject: Stephen Girard's trust still exists. > From: MARK PLUS <> > > The people who view cryonics revival trusts as a money grabbing scam > might want to explain why the trust set up by early American > financier and freethinker Stephen Girard still exists after he died > in 1831, and still provides income for the college he established > in his will: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Girard > > http://www.citytrusts.com/Financial%20Reports/Girard%202010%20FinanciaL%20Statements.pdf If you had read the second document, you would have learned the following: the estate of Stephen Girard is administered by the City of Philadelphia, acting as, it is dryly described, "an instrumentality of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania". In other words, this all works because of state action. I presume the trick is that the manager of the estate is a government entity and that the funds are disbursed at the pleasure of said entity. It would presumably be impossible for an ordinary trust to survive for so long, though one would clearly have to consult an expert in Pennsylvania trusts and estates law to know the details. There may also be issues of grandfathering. The amount of money held is trivial by current standards -- net assets being around $200k. Given that the individual in question was one of the wealthiest people in the world at death, the assets, around the value of an average house, do not reflect canny management of the funds. One doubts that the money will last much longer, not that it would be sufficient to support more than a couple of children at this point. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33180