X-Message-Number: 33184 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:15:51 -0800 From: Gary Kline <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #33178 - #33182 References: <> On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 10:00:02AM -0000, CryoNet wrote: > > Message #33179 > From: > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:31:33 -0500 (EST) > Subject: more on mortuaries > > I've lost the text, but I recall that Brian Wowk noted some possible > problems with use of morticians for standby, including availability of equipment. > > Those objections do not seem valid to me, for a very simple reason, namely, > that any company like Suspended Animation would face the same problems, > and using morticians would in almost all cases be cheaper and quicker and > more reliable. > > As previously noted, when Mae and I lived in Arizona, we trained and > equipped the local mortuary people, and paid an annual retainer for an annual > practice run. > > I think Brian specifically said that if an actual bedside standby were > necessary or desirable, maybe lasting several days, this would preclude use of > mortuary people. Not so. The mortuaries not only often have sizable staffs, > but they always have potential additional staff through cooperation with > other morticians in the vicinity. > > I acknowledge that some members travel a lot and would find a fixed local > set-up impractical, but these are in a small minority. > > Robert Ettinger > This is the biggest hole in the concept on suspending those of us who realize that the future of technology will almost certainly be able to revive a human being in from 50 to 250 years. Even if the dying person's family has agreed and even if the person is in a hospital or nursing home or at home receiving hospice care--the time of death is key (modulo five or ten minutes). Most of us die in a hospital or facility that would allow for post-mortem prep. But it still has to be an ideal or near-ideal situation for everything to be done correctly. As the Boomers age toward their final years this movement will gain currency, but it isn't far enough along yet from what I've seen out in the real world. I do mention cryonics briefly in my ebook and am still working on essays that promote the concept. I am doing what I can do because, simply put, I want a second chance. The fact is that we all have a just a few more miles to go ... . gary kline -- Gary Kline http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33184