X-Message-Number: 33204
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:00:12 -0800 (PST)
From: david pizer <>
Subject: Re: [venturist_directors - special messages] better cryonics ...

Hi Mike 


When you put a piece of meat in shrink wrap, even at room temperature, it keeps 
much better and longer then meat that the air circulates around.  Shrink wrap 
can keep meat at room temperature for very long times.  It might be the case 
that shrink wrap and cold from just an electric freezer might keep things better
than we do now.  
 

go into a grocery store and look for meat (like beef jerky) near the check out 
counter (not even refrigerated).  It keeps for years.
 

This really needs to be checked out.  It just might lead to a protocol that can 
be done better then we do now and no need for liquid nitrogen?  That would mean 
you could use some kind of perfusion, shrink wrap, then store in Alaska in the 
permafrost.
 
David

--- On Sun, 1/9/11, Mike Perry <> wrote:


From: Mike Perry <>
Subject: Re: [venturist_directors - special messages] better cryonics ...
To: , 
Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 11:41 PM


  




What we now do for whole bodies is to put them in sleeping bags (with the head 
in a neurocan inside). For neuros they are put in a cover with a draw string, 
then put in a can lined with dacron wool, with a lid that is wired on.

Mike

At 15:01 2011-01-09, david pizer wrote:


  


Why don't we add a step in the overall cryonics preparation and storage 
procedure such as putting the patient in some form of shrink wrap when we store 
them?


It seems that putting the patient in the protection of shrink wrap would 
increase the protection if it was done as quickly as possible along with 
everything else we now do.

David Pizer




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