X-Message-Number: 33236 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 05:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: un person <> Subject: Blow the Big Dogwhistle over on cold filter/cryonics chat, Mark Plus wrote: " You still haven't answered my question. Response to A cryonics paleofuture as depicted by Mark Plus How would "religionizing" cryonics work among Americans who don't care much about religion in the first place, namely, the ones who live outside the Third World culture of the American South? " And I replied: The best is ever the enemy of the good. I just drove across half the country, from the deep south to the rust belt. Beautiful country. Listened to religious radio the entire way, just about. Fascinating stuff. I was raised as a jehovah's witness. I prepared and read sermons aloud to the congregation as a child, so the subject is very familiar to me, even though I am now an atheist. But I digress. To answer your question, Mark, it is not perfection that we seek; it is instead improvement. Right now we are blowing a miniscule dog whistle. You have heard the common saying "I am playing the world's smallest violin"? Well, we cryonicists have been blowing the world's smallest dogwhistle. Or at least a dogwhistle that is in competition for the world's smallest. Cryonics is nerd-centric. No, wait. That is too large an audience. We are uber-nerd centric. The pool of people that can hear us is a tiny pool. Maybe 30 thousand people in america can hear us. Our language, our subculture, etc, all these things, right now, can only reach about 30000. That is a rough estimate. That is about 1/100th of 1 percent of america. THe other 99.99 percent of adults (not kids) cannot really even rationally consider cryonics. The idea just sort of bounces off their heads. When asked about cryonics, they may make appropriate sounds, but they really never consider it at all. I am not saying that preaching a cryogospel would reach everyone. But it would reach tens of millions. A cheap form of cryonics, a CI-style form, when combined with a cryogospel, I really think, could give us at least 10 times as many members within 10 years. Have you looked at the revenue streams of these megachurches? In one year they take in more $$ than cryonics has EVER taken in. And it is all make believe. Fantasy. And I am so so saddened that you would make this error in logic (asking for perfection instead of improvement). Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33236