X-Message-Number: 33293 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:23:42 -0700 Subject: Re: again, religiosity and target groups From: MARK PLUS <> David Stodolsky writes: >Atheism is defined as "a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods". Therefore, it doesn't provide any "cultural, social and ritualistic aspects of building an activist community." Since when did atheism mean "a lack of belief"? Atheists have traditionally disputed theistic beliefs about the nature and contents of reality, often including criticisms of the practical consequence of these beliefs. The Enlightenment-era atheist Denis Diderot in his Encyclopedie defines atheism as "the opinion of those which deny the existence of God. To be charged with the odious title of atheism, it is necessary to have the concept of God, and reject it." In other words, atheists resemble vegans. Vegans don't just "lack belief in eating meat," perhaps because they've never had any meat available for consumption in their lives. The vegan firebrands go further to attack the dominant culture which has based itself on exploiting animals, while arguing for the advantages (medical, environmental, social, ethical, etc.) of their alternative world view and lifestyle. I guess vegans could say that "Carnivory poisons everything." -- Mark Plus Life is short: Freeze hard! Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33293