X-Message-Number: 3335 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 20:58:29 -0400 From: Subject: CRYONICS reconstruction Ian Taylor has asked how (even given determinism and far-future nanotech) it might be possible to reconstruct a brain hemisphere destroyed by a stroke. Anders Sandberg has given some partial answers for partial success. Let me add a couple of comments. (For the sake of simplicity I omit any questions about what "destruction" of a hemisphere means.) I naturally can't give any details or any guarantees, but some of the stratagems might go roughly as follows. (Dandridge Cole and others have made similar comments.) Rather than use brute-force methods, inferring atomic trajectories and energy levels etc. into the past, we might "triangulate" or use convergent cross-reference to determine an individual's behavior and response patterns (after using his genetic information and saved structure as a basis). While behavior and response patterns are unlikely to tell us everything about a person's fine structure, they can surely tell us a great deal, possibly leaving a difference so small as to make no difference. As a crude introduction, recall that many people can often "read" facial expressions and body language to infer certain feelings and attitudes and incipient actions in the person observed. Most of us learn such skills, to some degree, just by living and allowing our intuition to become educated. Such skills could certainly be honed and sharpened by finding the most skilfull observers and studying their techniques, then improving them. (For those who minimize these possibilities, I recommend reading CLEVER HANS: THE HORSE OF MR. VON OSTEN, by Oskar Pfungst, Ed. Robert Rosenthal, Holt/Rinehart/Winston 1967. Hans was apparently able to do simple sums in arithmetic, tapping out the answers with his hoof. He could do this even when STRANGERS posed the problems. [ "How much is two plus three? etc.] But he couldn't do it in failing light, and it was finally realized that he was reading the body language of the spectators, and could tell by their attitudes when it was time to stop tapping his hoof! This may seem just as marvelous as a horse actually doing arithmetic, but there it is.) So we gather as much information as possible about the patient, starting with obvious things such as photographs, movies, video tapes, sound tapes, writings and especially handwriting, diaries, publications, drawings, ink blots, medical records, etc. We also do the same for all his close relatives and contacts, if possible, since the interactions could have much to imply. We even save or study his clothing, bedding, furniture, and autos, if possible, for their remnants of odors and clues about habits. We gather employer and tax records as well as school records, if possible. And so on--learn as much as possible from anyone or anything with whom or with which he has had physical or communication contact. Each bit of information will have many possible antecedents along many different dimensions; but almost all of these possibilities will be ruled out after "triangulation"--determining which possible antecedents are COMMON to the various end points. Computer specialists--of whom there are many in cryonics--will appreciate the countless opportunities for short cuts and elegance of strategy. Of course there will also be much to be learned from the remaining, not "destroyed" parts of the brain. This will powerfully assist the triangulation process. When we think we have it right, we simulate the person via computer and hologram etc., and subject this to a Turing test with any surviving relatives and acquaintances, if possible. If the simulation doesn't pass muster, we fine tune it further. When this process is complete, we can presumably reconstruct from his frozen remains a living person very much like the patient, including most of his important memories, or very similar ones. If at that time we still haven't solved the "philosophical" problems and aren't sure whether the reconstruction is "really" the same person--well, at worst we are left with some doubts, so what else is new? Why bother with such ramblings? We have evidence that some people take these questions seriously with respect to their own decisions on cryonics. Robert Ettinger Cryonic s Institute Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=3335