X-Message-Number: 33367 From: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:07:04 EST Subject: Melody Maxim's Distorted Reality 1 Content-Language: en No. No more answers from me until you answer the questions asked of you first - and long ago. You are a pernicious distorter of truth by your indecent use of dirty and degrading statements rephrased as questions. Want just a few examples, folks? Well here's one fresh from CryoNet just short while ago: http://cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33264 "While I'm sure Mr. Darwin has toyed with primitive perfusion equipment, at cryonics facilities, he is not a perfusionist, or an engineer, and he certainly does not have resources comparable to those of companies, which specialize in perfusion equipment, such as those mentioned here: http://www.perfusion.com/cgi-bin/links/default2.asp?tree=558" Yeah, right, OK Maxim, PROVE it, prove that the equipment I worked with in the 1980s and "90s was "primitive perfusion equipment, at cryonics facilities"? In fact, were using the same equipment that was being used in cardiothoracic operating suites around the world - and some of that equipment is still, today, being used with excellent outcomes in places that can't afford the latest and newest pumps... Nevertheless, removing the pejorative words "toyed with" out of consideration, DFEND YOUR ASSERTION THAT I EMPLOYED PRIMITIVE PERFUSION EQUIPMENT in cryonics. And be very careful to defend your implication that that is ALL that I ever employed, because as we all know, the only thing available to cryonicists when I became involved was " primitive equipment" if you count embalming pumps. Indeed, even the Manrise machine (which BTW, I never used myself) was reasonably sophisticated for 1972. The you can go on to defend these remarks by citing REAL EXAMPLES and PROVIDING REAL REFERENCES: http://cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33264 While I'm sure Mr. Darwin has toyed with primitive perfusion equipment, at cryonics facilities, he is not a perfusionist, or an engineer, and he certainly does not have resources comparable to those of companies, which specialize in perfusion equipment, such as those mentioned here: http://www.perfusion.com/cgi-bin/links/default2.asp?tree=558 "How many cryonics projects have been directed, on the advice of Mr. Darwin and others like him? How many of those projects were based in ignorance of existing equipment and technology? For so long as people like Mr. Darwin and his peers are considered to be "experts," in cryonics experiments, there is likely to be nothing more than ample misdirection and false promises. It seems a very small group of self-interested people have made, what could be an interesting scientific experiment, a total sham. (By "self-interested," I do not mean people who are interested in extending their own lives; I mean people who are primarily interested in maintaining their over-inflated egos and/or bank accounts, by maintaining control of experiments and/or projects, which they are not capable of leading.)" Me and most others on CryoNet would like to know SPECIFICALLY not only " *how many* of those (cryonics) projects were based in ignorance of existing equipment and technology" as a result of my advice or actions, but EXACTLY WHAT AND WHENTHEY WERE. Tell us! And when you finish with the two simple and straightforward requests above, THEN you can get started on the many questions and clarifications asked of you in the material below and that is to follow. And I will post and repost these questions relentlessly until: 1) You answer these questions succinctly and satisfactorily 2) You are removed from this forum 3) I am removed from this forum. You are a damaging and destructive influence in cryonics, and there's the pity, because you might well have made valuable contributions. It would be hard to find anyone in or out of cryonics whose criticisms of the technical and ethical shortcomings of the field more closely match my own, and those of a very few others, some of who you know and with whom you might also have worked. Instead you have chosen to attach, denigrate and humiliate. And the irony is, of the people to whom you have directly caused distress, I am not one. To use the only sentence that will do service to you and your words: I could frankly give a fuck about your fucking lies and distortions where they concern me. And anyone who knows me will know that is true. When they first came to my to attention, as a result of an email from "Finance Director (FD)," I responded factually and without ad hominem until I realized that you were a seriously disturbed and vindictive person who was not susceptible to reason, at which point I walked away and didn't give it another thought. I blew off subsequent emails from FD attempting to alert me to your actions. Become any kind of a public figure and crazy idiots will say all kinds of bad things about you - most of which are lies. Hell, even you own associates and so-called "friends" will lie salaciously and foolishly about you. The reasons for this execrable behavior as varied as they are impossible to correct, or to control. You either get used to it, or you go mad. And since I've long been the latter, that left me nowhere to go but on with my life. It was not until I was forced to realize that your vile babble was actually hurting cryonics that I was moved to action. Because when you started harming cryonics you started fucking with two things I do care about - my only reasonable hope of personal survival, and one of the few things I've loved without reservation. Maybe it's better that way, because my response is as mechanical, as relentless and as inevitable as the secondary fusion reaction of a hydrogen bomb. Mike Darwin Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33367