X-Message-Number: 33420 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:54:57 -0700 Subject: uploading -- additional comments From: Jeff Davis <> I wasn't satisfied that I got my point across, so let me add this: If you upload someone's dynamic information structure into a android body, thus eliminating all the "simulated" aspect of an existence inside a computer, and that robot starts functioning in the world, with behavior indistinguishable from a biological person, and claiming to be a person, many people will say it's not a person, it's a machine. The difference is that "soul" thing. Without that "soul" thing, one would be forced to conclude by an inescapable comparison that (either the robo-upload is a "real" person or) you, too, are a machine, a soul-less. zombie. That's how uploading and its basis in materialism leads to the unacceptable horror. Best, Jeff Davis "My guess is that people don't yet realize how "handy" an indefinite lifespan will be." J Corbally Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33420