X-Message-Number: 33489 From: "Fred Chamberlain" <> Subject: cryonics Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:56:39 -0500 (RESUBMITTED DUE TO APPARENT AUTO-REJECTION, FOR USE OF AN IMPROPER FONT, FORMATTING, ETC. WHO KNOWS?) Re: X-Message-Number: 33476 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:40:55 -0000 Subject: CryoNet to Enter Stasis March 17, 2011 From: "Kevin Q. Brown" <> >After the March 17, 2011 digest mailing, no more new messages >will be posted, although the archives still will be accessible >as a historical record. >Kevin Q. Brown > >(Please include "cryonics" or "CryoNet" in the subject line.) Thank you, Kevin, for the 22 years of history of thinking, by (as you put it) "zombies" as well as others. We are especially indebted to CryoNet for One particular posting and response, which literally 'changed our lives'. It took place on the 16th of June, 2009, and is copied in its entirety, below. X-Message-Number: 31744 From: "Peter Voss" <> References: <> Subject: Virtual Immortality Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:49:58 -0700 >From: Charles Platt <> : I'm starting to see >companies that serve (or exploit, as you wish) those of us >who spend a lot of time in webspace and are aware that >after death occurs in the physical world, our virtual >identities may linger in various uncontrolled or unexpected >ways, or may disappear faster than we would like. Issues >range from the persistence of a "dead" profile on Facebook >to the inability of relatives to shut down accounts because >they lack the necessary passwords. Here's a fair summary of >some options: >http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/05/18/ >eternal-space-legacy-locker/ ..... Anyone interested in that may want to look at: http://www.cyberev.org/ This is run and funded by Martine Rothblatt who is a great supporter of cryonics. She is highly committed to making this a permanent and increasingly comprehensive site. There should be a reasonably simple way to copy/ backup your other web information to cyberev.org ******************************************************* I was sitting in the passenger area of Sky Harbor Airport at the time I saw this, browing CryoNet with a pitiful little HP iPac personal assistant, but it at least allowed me to send the link to Linda Chamberlain (my 'forever' partner at the firm she was working), where she immediately had a look at CyBeRev And the associated links, including the past issues of its Journals on personal cyberconsciousness and what Terasem terms "Geoethical Nanotechnology". By the time I got another break, a note from Linda indicated that this was the doorway to an area of activity we would have never suspected existed, except for the posting by Charles Platt and Peter Voss's reply. Why would we notice and take what was said by these two people seriously? We had great respect for them both, as it turned out. Charles Platt's novel "Silicon Man" was one of the first (and still the best) stories about cyberconsciousness we had ever seen; we'd had the pleasure of meeting him in New York years before and spending time with him walking about Central Park and elsewhere, after which he became very, very active in cryonics and has since contributed a great deal to its growth and development, including (at present) his participation in the development of Mike Darwin's new blog, "Chronosphere". Our past connections with Peter Voss went deeper still. During our years of working with Alcor, in one never-to-be-forgotten standby and suspension, we (Fred & Linda), along with Peter and his partner, Evelyn, flew to Chicago, drove the standby/transport equipment to the middle of Ohio, negotiated patient access with a stubbornly resistant Catholic Hospital, carried out transport and washout, flew back to Phoenix, and helped with the rest of the operation (cryoprotection and start of cooldown). That was memorable if for no other reason essentially going without sleep for around eighty hours. One of those few opportunities to do something we will always remember (if cryonics and other pursuits of life extension permit), virtually 'forever'. In any case, this 'on the fly' introduction to Terasem led to our being able to participate in one of the workshop/colloquia that Terasem held in Second Life in December, 1969, by way of a talk titled "Empowerment of Cybertwins as Trustees, Surrogates for Reanimation Decision Making, and Guardians of Cryonauts, Prior to Personality Interface Implementation by Mutual Consent" (online access at http://www.lifepact.com/cybertwins.htm with links to a video at http://vimeo.com/10001382 where the Power Point slides are blended with the audio of the talk. Two days after the presentation in Second Life on Terasem Island, we flew to Melbourne, Florida and on December 12, 2009 purchased the mobile home where we now live, met Martine Rothblatt for the first time 'in person' at noon, at the Terasem Ashram in Melbourne Beach, and the following June (2010) moved into that mobile home, where we are now deeply involved with Terasem and what it is becoming. Based on that, we think it's a fair thing to say that one posting on CryoNet literally 'changed our lives' in ways that could scarcely have happened as they did, without that interchange (between Charles Platt and Peter Voss). So, it's with all of that in mind that, Keven, we thank you for what just one posting on Cryonet did for the two of us, and for all of the other historical interchanges that will now lie there in wait for any who wish to explore them, perhaps to meet those who without that they would never have known, and even perhaps to find that doing so 'changed their lives' in ways that cannot even begin to be imagined, at this time. Boundless Life, Fred & Linda Chamberlain and Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33489