X-Message-Number: 343 From att!cup.portal.com!Eric_S_Klien Sun May 19 18:40:55 PDT 1991 To: From: Subject: Alcor Boston Minutes Date: Sun, 19 May 91 18:40:55 PDT Message-Id: <> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) ALCOR BOSTON MINUTES Sunday May 12th 3:00 - 6:00 PM Meeting Dates ------------- Our next meetings will be on June 9, July 14, and Aug 11 at 3:00 PM. Location of the meetings will be at the home of Eric Klien, 1 Sinai Circle B10, Chelmsford, MA 01824 until further notice. (508) 663- 5480 Work, (508) 250-0820 Home, e-mail. To get to my house take 128 to 3 north, then take the route 110 exit towards Chelmsford (making a right off the exit), then travel 1.5 miles and turn left in front of the CVS onto Wilson street. After entering Wilson street, make a right into my apartment complex. If you miss Wilson street and find yourself in the big 129 and 110 intersection, make a left onto 129 and then a left onto Wilson street and then a left into my apartment complex. Please bring folding chairs. Member Recruitment ------------------ This was a small meeting but one person was new. He had seen Walter's objectivist seminar which I had called a recruitment failure in the last minutes. As long as we get one new person at each meeting, we will met once a month. We will meet once every two months if we fail to recruit new blood. If anyone reading this can promote our next meeting I would appreciate it. I am especially looking for ways to do local mass mailings. And of course, two of our subscribers publish their own zines and could mention the dates of my next meetings... Time Travel ----------- We had a big discussion over the factors that can slow down time. I thought only absolute speed and gravity fields slow down time. Someone else thought acceleration was a factor. I would appreciate comments on this matter. By the way, this topic came up when we were discussing the June 1989 Discover article, "Cosmic Time Travel". This article mistakingly believes that if you slow down time in an area of space to near zero, so that after an hour, that space is one hour behind you in time, that by traveling into that space you are accomplishing reverse time travel. I mentioned that this is as stupid as saying that a fast plane that went from New York to California in two hours had travelled back in time by one hour. Acquitted Man Vows to Seek Legalization of Aided Suicide -------------------------------------------------------- This was the title of a May 12, 1991 Boston Globe article. This article mentions that it is not technically illegal to aid a suicide in Michigan but that there is legislation pending to make this explictly illegal. The reason there have been so many court cases in Michigan is because there was no specific law saying that aiding suicide is legal. On the positive side, a Nov. 5 initiative in Washington State will make this act specifically legal. Similar good legislation is pending in the Oregon Legislature and a 1992 initiative is planned for California. We only need one state to pass such laws to save people like Thomas Donaldson from having to dehydrate themselves until they are legally dead. Ideally, the California initiative will pass next year. Finances -------- Charlie Hartman sent me a xerox of part of the January 1991 Money article. Unfortunately, the part he sent me didn't specify the capital gains rates of each state, does anyone have a copy of such information? By the way, I have learned that owning an offshore bank can have positive tax consequences. Particularly if our government continues to increase our tax rates. Entertainment ------------- We discussed the possibility that as entertainment options grow that this may cause a significant minority to believe that life is better than death. The BattleTech Virtual Reality Center that will soon open in Boston (at $7 for 10 minutes play) and how virtual reality will become very popular in the future was talked about. The refusal of the city of Los Angeles to allow a second cable company in their city was discussed. In this case, a firm has been trying since 1979 to install cable, and despite a 9-0 U.S. Supreme Court decision ruling against the city in 1986, the city fights on. In July 1990, the FCC proposed federal legislation to "forbid local franchising authorities from unreasonably denying a franchise to potential competitors who are ready and able to provide service." We can only hope that such laws will eventually be passed and enforced. Having many cable companies to choose from would dramatically lower cable rates and increase cable options such as being able to receive a specific movie within two minutes of asking to see it. And having control of fast forward, reverse, and pause while watching it. The recent FCC ruling allowing limited competition for local phone service was mentioned. This ruling only applies to large businesses hooked up to local phone companies, but it could eventually be modified so it applies to both small businesses and the regular public. Because of the current restricitions against local competition, it can cost me more to call within the state then to call localities 3000 miles away. It was mentioned that the FCC is holding up approval of a HDTV standard. Reason magazine said "Why? The FCC is like most regulatory bodies; it has become a defender of the interests it regulates. In this case, the FCC is defending local broadcasters and trying to make sure they can compete on an equal technological footing with cable, tape, and satellite televison." It was also brought up that the FCC is still refusing to allow ABC, NBC, and CBS to produce their own programming. This is crippling the big three and causing the Japanese to buy up the companies that are allowed to create this programming. Hopefully, the recent modification of the rules to allow FOX to produce its own programming despite the fact that it now exceeds 15 hours of air time per week is a positive sign for future legislation. Hopefully, if the FCC will soon allows us to have unregulated cable, local phone service, HDTV, and big three programming. This increase in entertainment options may add to the amount of people who think life is better than death. How to Go Faster Than Light --------------------------- This Thomas Donaldson article from Analog was discussed. He believes that the Fermi Paradox is the major difficulty with FTL drives. (Fermi Paradox = No intelligent beings have taken over our galaxy. FTL = Faster Than Light travel.) But he goes on to say that even if faster than light travel is only possible under very limited circumstances that this would still be very significant. I quote "Tachyons might only exist within a special field or medium, and transmission of tachyons might only be possible between stationary objects within that medium." This would give us a very fast tachyonic computer! Venturists ---------- If the Venturists are planning on burying any more time capsules, please let me know. The same goes if any other cryonics groups are planning on doing this. Aren't You Dying To Know if a Phorid Is In Your Future? ------------------------------------------------------- This April 25, 1991 Wall Street Journal article was discussed. Here are a few quotes: "Be doubly forewarned: If you keep reading this article, you will encounter things so gross that Madonna wouldn't even dream of putting them in a rock video." "The embalming fluids preserve the bodies to the extent that they keep out molds and other decays", Prof. Snetsinger says. This, he observes, "means the flies have more time to eat." Needless to say, this article showed that dying can be pretty gruesome. A "Can-Rattler" Responds ------------------------ The following article was taken from the electronic cryonics mailing list. I am reprinting it because it is chock full of information. For example, I learned that Alcor is now up to 236 members, including about 20 former TransTime members. Speaking to a person representing TransTime, I got the impression that they only have 55 members which makes the 20 members taken from TransTime very significant. (Alcor has also taken two of TransTime's patients!) I also learned that Alcor's suspension process has now become good enough that a kidney from a neurosuspension patient who was cryonically suspended was considered viable for transplant by a medium sodium/potassium ratio test done by an independent biomedical laboratory. Here's the article: A "CAN-RATTLER" RESPONDS by Mike Darwin [ To conserve space, I removed the text of the (greater than 400 line) May 14 message #333. If you did not receive message #333, please let me know and I will send it to you. - KQB ] Questions --------- If any e-mail people reading these minutes have questions that they would like answered in future meetings, send me the questions and they will be answered in the next minutes published. Mistakes -------- If any of these minutes reflect mistaken information, let Eric Klien know! Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=343