X-Message-Number: 345 From att!compuserve.com!73750.670 Fri May 24 19:56:28 EDT 1991 Date: 24 May 91 18:18:25 EDT From: "Allen J. Lopp" <> To: "Kevin Q. Brown" <> Subject: CryoMed Clap-Trap Message-Id: <"910524221825 73750.670 EHA71-1"@CompuServe.COM> >From Allen Lopp for Cryonics E-Mail List (05/24/91): I am saddened that Art Quaife's way of announcing TT's recent financial windfall has once again precipitated ill-will between ACS/TT supporters and Alcor supporters. Furthermore, I am saddened that in the midst of his good fortune Art still feels it is necessary to take pot-shots at others. I thought that relations between ACS/TT and Alcor might improve to the point that we could at least stand the sight of each other occasionally, but apparently that is too much to hope for. Thank you, Art, for urinating in the jacuzzi once again. Now that the jucuzzi is full of everyone's urine, I might as well pee in it too ... For the most part, the responses of my fellow Alcorians may have been harsh at times, but very little was said that I can't wholeheartedly endorse. This includes Mike Darwin and Brian Wowk. I am sorry that we must waste our time in such bickering, but I thank all those who took the time to write, especially those whose writings were highly factual and carefully documented. Of all the cuts that Art offered, the one I resent the most is the statement "The fewer attorneys you need, the better you are doing." The obvious implication is that TT is doing better than Alcor because Alcor has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in recent years defending their members from abusive public officials and in defending the rights of its members---and ACS members and TT clients, as well---to select and to accomplish cryonic suspension for themselves. Art, you really do have some nerve to make such a remark! You benefit from our work and then ridicule us for doing it! The unrealistic bragging and other distortions I have come to expect of you, but for this I am truly appalled! As for the "publicity disaster" of the Dora Kent episode, I can only say this: Never have I been more proud to be an Alcorian than I was when I saw how our leadership could maintain their stamina, courage, values, and integrity through such an onslaught of distorted journalism and governmental malfeasance. I may at times continue to question their wisdom, but I shall never again doubt their toughness. I will be kind enough not to speculate on what I expect would happen to TT in a similar crisis. It is not a mystery to me why the management of Cryomedical Sciences was willing to pay such huge sums to buy back stock from TT and TT researchers. As the public becomes ever more aware of the dangers of blood transfusion, the blood substitute market has multi-billion-dollar potential immediately ahead of it. My supposition is that Cryomedical Sciences did not want this potential threatened by the involvement of people associated with cryonics generally, and specifically scientists who have repeatedly distorted, overpraised and misrepresented their work to the press and the public. Regardless of how many PhD's these scientists have, the Cryomedical Sciences investors knew the credibility of their company wasn't worth horse do-do as long as they had them on board. These transactions are far from being a victory for cryonicists or something we should feel JOY over. Instead, the enormity of those checks are testament to how desparately Cryomedical Sciences wanted to be rid of the likes of TT and Paul Segall and all. I extend the remaining investors in Cryomedical Sciences best wishes in their efforts to market actual products that save people's lives, and I applaud their business savvy: They may have signed some big checks lately, but they got one hell of a bargain. Very truly yours, Allen J. Lopp Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=345