X-Message-Number: 3629 From: whscad1!kqb (Kevin Q Brown +1 201 386 7344) Subject: CRYONICS Admin: Moving CryoNet (Update) I plan to move the cryonics mailing list (CryoNet) to cryonet.org on Mon. January 16. Unless you want to ensure that your email address cannot be revealed by the Majordomo "who" command, there is nothing special that you need to do about that now. In fact, you won't need to change much even after the move. Here is what I plan to do on Jan. 16: (1) I'll send to the commands to subscribe everyone who currently is receiving the cryonics mailing list at the old site (). (2) Majordomo will email to each of the new subscribers a message describing CryoNet at cryonet.org, with instructions for posting, retrieving archive files, and subscribing/unsubscribing. (3) I'll deactivate all the email addresses at the old site for the main cryonics mailing list. You will be able to post messages to the cryonics mailing list in two different ways. You can send them (with "CRYONICS" in the Subject line) to the same address you use now or you can send them (without "CRYONICS" in the Subject line) to The cryonet.org address will be best, though, because the automatic forwarding from whscad1.att.com to cryonet.org can take several hours during the busy times of the day. Some parts of the move will be incomplete on January 16. For example, (A) The CRYONICS.POLITICS list probably will not yet be moved to cryonet.org. (It depends on how soon I can get a second mailing list ready at cryonet.org.) In that case, any postings to CRYONICS.POLITICS still will need to go to "". (B) Not all the archives will be at cryonet.org, although certainly the recent messages will be there and most of the 00* general reference kinds of messages will be there. (C) Some of the nonstandard features of the current mailing list (such as "CRYOKILL" to unpost your messages before mailblast time) may not be available. Since the old archives will remain at for the forseeable future, you will have three different options for retrieving archive files: (1) the old method at the old address: send email to with a Subject line of the form "CRYOMSG nnnn" where "nnnn" describes which files to retrieve, (2) the old method at the new address: send email to (the same address as the posting address) with a "CRYOMSG nnnn" Subject line as before, (3) a new method at the new address: send email to with a command of the form "get nnnn" in the first nonblank line of the message body. The subject line will be ignored. (This method is similar to the standard Majordomo method for retrieving archive files.) Actually, there will is a fourth method. Point your WWW browser to URL: http://www.c2.org/~kqb/cryonet.html during the (way) off-peak times for the West Coast and select the archives you want interactively. Since c2.org's net connection still is slow, though, you probably will prefer the three email methods above. Complicating Factors It would be nice if the move was completely transparent to everyone on the list, but unfortunately some changes or discrepancies were unavoidable. (A) The message numbers at cryonet.org are not quite the same as at whscad1.att.com, as I explained in a previous message. Expect your digest on January 16 to skip a few message numbers, although probably no messages will be missing. For messages posted within the past few weeks, archive retrievals at cryonet.org will need to use slightly different message numbers than at whscad1.att.com. (You can retrieve message 0001 to find the new message numbers.) (B) The cryonet.org digests will be get emailed between 2 AM and 4 AM Pacific time, since that is the least busy period of the day. (Currently the digests get emailed 8 PM Eastern time, which is 5 PM Pacific time.) I'll send more information about the move within the next week. Kevin Q. Brown Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=3629