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Date:  Mon, 09 Jan 95 22:55:07 
From: Steve Bridge <>
Subject: "Selling Cryonics"

SELLING CRYONICS
By Stephen W. Bridge, President
Alcor Life Extension Foundation

(Reprinted from CRYONICS, 4th Quarter, 1995 (Issue #164), p. 10-13.)


     "So how do you handle your advertising?  You know, all you need 
to do is run a full-page ad in the *Wall Street Journal* and you'll 
have all the business you can handle.  Just give me a commission on 
all of the new members I get, and I'll take care of everything." 

     A handful of us who have run cryonics organizations will 
recognize this guy right away -- the fellow who thinks cryonics is 
another commodity to be bought and sold and all it takes is a bit of 
advertising.  We've also watched these guys fall on their faces and
pass from the scene in search of easier scores. 

     Selling cryonics is *tough* work.  First, you as a cryonics 
"salesman" must convince a prospective client to re-examine his own 
mortality, an aspect of his life he may have boxed off for his own 
sanity decades earlier.  Then you have to convince the prospect 
that: 

1.  The future will be a really cool place to hang out, 
instead of a science fiction post-nuclear holocaust 
nightmare with rap music, 
2.  Future medicine will be able to take care of current 
diseases and injuries (no cancer, AIDS, heart disease, 
airplane fatalities, or bad breath), 
3. Aging will be reversible and preventable in less than 
a century (no balding starship captains), 
4. Yes, freezing causes massive amounts of structural 
damage, but, hey, it's repairable -- really... 
probably... we hope, 
5. Molecular technologies will able to fix all that 
stuff, and lots of stuff he never even thought of 
before, but about which you now have him terrified, 
6. "Dead" doesn't have to mean "DEAD," 
7.  "Emergency conversion to neurosuspension" means 
"never having to say you're sorry,"
8.  There aren't any reasons to deal with all of those 
messy "soul" questions, 
9.  Yes, it's worth a few thousand dollars to stay 
alive, even $120,000, 
10.  He'll have a great time meeting altruistic 
attorneys and/or life insurance agents (oh, yeah), 
11.  There are plenty of good reasons to stay alive both 
now and in the future, 
12.  Yes, he'll be able to adjust to the future at least 
as well as his ancestors did in crossing an ocean to get 
to America, 
13.  Yes, there are plenty of reasons why people will 
want to "bring him back" in the future (even though you 
have already spent weeks answering this dolt's questions 
and you know they had better not ask YOU to decide 
whether to revive him in the same universe as you),  AND 
14.  Reading, comprehending, and signing that mound of 
paperwork is really lots of fun, and don't worry that 
there are no guarantees -- hey, we're pioneers! 

     Sometimes this process can take as short a time as two years 
(in a really good case), and may only require ten or fifteen 
meetings a year to convince him.  Multiply this by a few dozen 
prospects and you can easily see why the number of ulcers and 
headaches among cryonics "motivators" (I can't bring myself to call 
them "salespeople" anymore) is higher than the number of marriages 
and robust bank accounts.

INFILTRATING SCIENCE FICTION 

All of these questions came up again when I attended the 1994 World 
Science Fiction Convention in Winnipeg, Canada in September.  
Cryonicists have been appearing at SF "cons" and talking about 
cryonics to these supposedly future-oriented folk at least since 
1978, when several of us in Indianapolis attended the North American 
SF Convention in Louisville, Kentucky.  We've written over the years 
about how disappointed we have been at the results of our activities 
at what we thought would be a hotbed of people who wanted unlimited 
lifespans.  Unfortunately, the majority of SF fans seemed to be more 
interested in escape from reality and dressing up funny than in
serious contemplation of the future or finding a way to get there.

     Fortunately, it looks like we may be making some progress 
(glacial in comparison with selling new cars, more rapid in 
comparison with previous cryonics history).  In Winnipeg I met quite 
a few people who thought cryonics was logical and acceptable and 
worth discussing seriously.  

     Like at most science fiction conventions I have attended on 
behalf of Alcor (that sounds more noble than it is -- I have a lot 
of fun at them, too!), there were three primary ways of showing 
cryonics to people.  First, I shared a dealer's table in the 
exhibits area, which had been arranged by Brian Wowk of CryoCare, 
Ben Best of the Canadian Cryonics Society, and Paul Wakfer of 
CryoSpan.  Second, Ben and Paul, along with Keith Lynch, had rented
a large suite in the Sheraton Hotel for nightly room parties.  (Room
parties are a science fiction tradition with too many variations to
go into here.  Basically, hundreds of people troop around the hotels
looking for action.  For some people "action" means alcohol,
flirtation, and song, for some it means silliness, and for many
"action" means "intellectual conversation."  Cryonics room parties
aim at getting the latter.) 

     And finally, Brian, Ben, Paul, and I were also scheduled to 
present cryonics in a panel format as part of the convention 
programming.  (About 4,000 people attended the convention, so the 
programming was multi-track, sometimes as many as 15 programs per 
hour.) 

    There was the potential for discomfort in the organizational 
rivalries present, but we agreed to expend most of our energy in 
promoting cryonics in general and to keep personalities out of 
discussions of the differences between organizations.  That worked 
out very well and prevented us from chasing off potential new 
cryonicists.  

     I ended up working on cryonics a lot more hours than I had 
planned, but I think it was worthwhile.  By my estimate, I sat at 
the dealer's table 12-15 hours (we took turns so we could all attend 
interesting programs), was on the panel (1 hour), and talked 
cryonics at the room parties for 15-20 hours.  I also independently 
talked about cryonics various times during the conference as I had 
meals, met people in the halls, and attended other parties myself. 

     We spoke to many people in the dealer's room, and sold a 
surprising number of books on cryonics and nanotechnology (most of 
these were Ben and Paul's).  About 40 people attended the cryonics 
panel and at least two hundred people attended the various room 
parties.  

     There were not as many people at the cryonics room parties as 
in some years past, although the percentage of truly interested 
people was much higher than before.  This was the fourth year in a 
row for a cryonics room party at a WorldCon, and I think many people 
look forward to them.  One of the reasons for less attendance, I 
think, was that four GUYS were hosting it.  When women like Brenda 
Peters, Linda Chamberlain, and Angalee Shepherd have been at these, 
the food seems to taste better and the atmosphere seems more 
cheerful and inviting.  So the word gets around that this is one of 
THE spots to visit.  Of course some people figure it out anyway.  

     I was impressed by how many science/engineering/medicine-
oriented programs were on the convention schedule this year.  
Various of us attended some of them, and in at least two programs 
cryonicists were able to make positive statements from the audience. 

     In any convention, the most important sales aspect is the 
networking.  Several old friends asked me serious questions about 
cryonics for the first time at this con, even though they have known 
me for years.  And I heard and met engineers and scientists from all 
over the country.  I now know a lot more about the new virtual 
reality engineering system at Sandia National Labs, why major 
defense corporations don't tell the truth to the government labs, 
and why we may be closer to cloning dinosaurs.  Interestingly, being 
President of a large cryonics company carries a fair amount of 
prestige among these kinds of people.  I'm out on the far edge; but 
they think of cryonics research as plausible and interesting -- even  
*acceptable*, which is a wonderful change from decades of "weird."  
(And you know you're way out past the boundary when people in rubber 
alien costumes call YOU weird.) 

     Next year's WorldCon in is Glasgow, Scotland, and I doubt that 
Alcor can afford to send me there.  However, whenever the WorldCon 
is outside the USA or Canada, there is an alternate North American 
SF Convention (NASFIC) for people who can't afford to go so far.  
Next year the NASFIC will be in Atlanta GA, and we are already 
making plans to be there.


SO HOW DO WE ADVERTISE? 

     True advertising and marketing require *money*.  Most cryonics 
organizations were started on a shoestring budget -- usually with 
two shoes sharing one short shoestring.  Even the essential costs of 
gearing up and staying ready for suspensions, doing research, paying 
staff, running an office, and putting together attractive, useful 
publications are normally more than a small group can handle.  
Finding $30,000 for major advertising is rarely possible. 

     In addition, in the early 1980's Mike Darwin used to caution me 
that you shouldn't do major advertising until you're sure you have 
something for sale.  Advertising cryonics before you have decent 
equipment and facilities will do more harm than good. 

     The earlier listed problems of talking about cryonics with 
someone one-on-one are magnified when we think about advertising.  
If it takes two years and several kilograms of written material to 
adequately explain cryonics, how much can we squeeze into an ad?  
And which things should we choose?  

     Look at the misperceptions about cryonics that we must overcome 
to get people even to write for information:  We have to overcome 
the thoughts that anything this far from the norm must be a cult, a 
scam, or a collection of death-terrified psychotics.  We have to 
admit that the level and amount of research done on cryonics is low, 
and that we don't know if this will work or not.  We have to get 
past the mistaken impression that cryonic suspension is only for the 
wealthy or for those people "valuable enough" to be revived by 
future societies. 

     And there is the basic lack of understanding the important 
concepts.  The average American has a very poor level of scientific 
literacy.  A survey several years ago showed that less than 50% of 
Americans had any idea what a molecule was, much less understood 
DNA, cell biology, or molecular technology.  And the situation is 
much harder for older Americans.  My father went to high school ten 
years before *anyone* knew what DNA was.  We have to define or re-
define for people words like "death," "freezing," "cloning," 
"genetics," "cryogenics," "perfusion," and "ischemia," and we have 
to show how they relate to cryonics.  

     There is no doubt that a well thought-out ad in the right 
publication can be effective.  An ad in *Longevity* several years 
ago brought several hundred calls for free information.  And the 
Alcor ad in the January, 1994 issue of *Omni* Magazine (designed by 
Charles Platt) was especially successful; it gained us about 3,000 
requests for information.  This ad was in full color and would 
normally have cost us $30,000 to run.  Because of the joint essay 
contest we had with *Omni*, the ad was free to us.  Now if we had 
several members giving us $30,000 for full color ads in other 
publications, I'm sure we could get even more calls.  However, 
please consider the cost-effectiveness.  Each request for 
information costs us an average of $6.00 for the 800 number phone 
call, the information packet, and the postage.  And those 3,000 
requests have led to only about 20 members in nine months, so there 
is not a quick return on the money invested.  (Since it often takes 
years for people to make this decision, this may lead to hundreds of 
members someday). 

     We also began to prepare a marketing campaign last year, which 
will focus on sending letters to names on selected mailing lists.  
This project was interrupted by our move and other projects, but we 
hope to get back to work on this soon.  Alcor members gave us 
several donations to begin this campaign, and we are anxious to see 
what it tells us about what we think is a surge in interest in 
cryonics. 

     Since money is in short supply, for now we make do, and try to 
get as much attention as we can for free.  We have written several 
times about the media interviews we have done this year, frankly 
more than we thought possible.  Cryonics is attractive to the press 
and television.  The operating room and the Patient Care Room are 
impressive pieces of reality to the press, and the human touch is
here, too.  Photographs of many of our patients hang on the walls of
our office, testimony to the very personal reasons why we do this
job.  And the media like us because we are committed to a cause,
intelligent, good speakers, and because the entire idea is so
*different* -- hubristic and outlandish, but optimistic. 

     Radio talk show hosts have been especially excited to talk with 
us this year; and we were happy, too.  That is the only place we can 
control the conversation well enough to promote our 800 telephone 
number.  We have done several shows which stimulated as many as 100 
calls over the following 24 hours. 

     Locally, we are trying to promote a solid community image.  I 
have spoken to the Scottsdale Chamber of Commerce, the Scottsdale 
North Rotary Club, a Jewish Community Center, and a "Death and 
Dying" class at Arizona State University.  We have had two community 
college "Death and Dying" classes tour our facility.  We have given 
individual tours to dozens of local business people and students, 
including a number of people from the local medical community. 

     When possible, we go outside the local area to talk.  The Alcor 
Northern California chapter recently invited me to be the guest 
speaker at their local meeting.  Since I was going to be in the 
area, Ralph Merkle arranged for me to give a talk at Xerox PARC 
(Palo Alto Research Center) where he works.  Late this month Derek 
Ryan and I will present cryonics to a nanotechnology club at Cal 
Tech and to a high school biology class in Los Angeles.

     We can come to your company or organization or town, too.  
You'll probably have to help us out with our airfare and local
transportation; but it's a great way to get some interest going in
your local area.  

*YOU* CAN ADVERTISE, TOO

     Before I became Alcor's President, I gained publicity for Alcor 
in many ways.  I gave open slide shows in my home town of 
Indianapolis, including many to school groups.  I let the newspapers 
know that I was the local cryonics "resource person" in case a 
related story came up.  I was on several local radio and television 
shows.  If you are articulate, well-informed, and confident, you can 
do the same in your community.  (Talk to us first, though; there are 
some important rules to learn before becoming a spokesperson for 
cryonics.)  

     Even if you don't feel comfortable speaking in public, there 
are many ways you can get publicity.  There are dozens of authors 
out there writing books and magazine articles about aging, life-
extension, and the future in general.  Not too many of them consider 
cryonics, advanced medical technology, or nanotechnology in their 
future scenarios.  Doesn't that frustrate you?  So do something 
about it. Send them personal letters or Alcor literature showing 
them what they have been missing.  Most of these people will write 
more books in the future; and if you plant the right seeds, those 
ideas will grow.  I gave some cryonics information to a favorite 
science fiction author a couple of years ago, and her most recent 
book featured cryonics in an entertaining and positive way. 

     Most magazines and newspapers have a "letters" column.  Several 
cryonicists have had letters published refuting negative mentions of 
cryonics or giving the readers more information.  Try to get Alcor's 
address and phone number in wherever possible.  Remember, the 800-
367-2228 number only works in the USA and Canada, so 602-922-9013 is 
best for many magazines. 

     When people look for information, where do they most often go?  
The library, the bookstore, the computer network.  We would like to 
see Alcor's books and magazines in every public library, school 
library, and university library and in every bookstore in America.  
We'll settle for you just making sure they are in every library in 
your state.  We'll even give you a special deal for buying lots of 
copies of *Alcor's Cryonics: Reaching for Tomorrow* or books such as 
*The Prospect of Immortality* or *Engines of Creation* and 
distributing them to libraries.  We'll give you special rates for 
library gift subscriptions to *Cryonics* Magazine. 

     Other often over-looked sources for cryonics information are 
library reference books.  For instance, Alcor has received several 
calls for information because we are listed in *The Encyclopedia of 
Associations*.  You might look for other books that we should be 
listed in and help us accomplish that. 

     Science Fiction conventions aren't the only conventions that 
feature dealer's tables, room parties, and guest speakers.  You 
might try to sponsor cryonics-related activities at conferences of 
space activists, Internet surfers, libertarians, life extension 
researchers, or similar groups.  Make sure it is a group that you 
belong to, so you know the ins and outs of the sub-culture in 
advance.


FACE-TO-FACE 

     Advertising cryonics doesn't have to take hundreds of thousands 
of dollars.  Face it, while most people hear about cryonics from one 
of the usual sources, they usually *adopt* cryonics because of 
*meeting a cryonicist*.  Try to meet people.  Show them how friendly 
and interesting you are.  (If you're NOT friendly and interesting, 
just forget I said anything.)  Tell your friends and family.  
Discuss this idea.  Eventually maybe we really will make this idea 
so well understood that selling it through advertising will work.  
For now, though -- "Tag, you're it!" 

     Go tag someone else.


[END]

Stephen W. Bridge
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Subject: CRYONICS Decisive Psychological Trigger for Mass Cryonics
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Greetings from another "(semi)-lurker".  I must say that it is reassuring to 
see so many familiar (and respected) names here, from other interests that I 
have cultivated in the past; I would hate the think that I had wandered into 
the "Twilight Zone" alone :-).

By way of introduction, I am a Research Engineer working in the area of 
military systems and robotics.  I have degrees in Physics/Math and Mechanical 
Engineering, and also worked in Finance for several years between degrees.  
While I am a technical literate, (almost) everything I know about cryonics I 
learned here.

In Message #3610   writes:

>But the important thing for most of us to remember is that we ARE gaining and
>WILL grow much larger, pretty much  regardless of  particular individuals or
>tactics. Every year, almost every day, advances in science make our position
>more credible. Thousands, and possibly hundreds of thousands, have made vague
>mental notes to get in touch with us, and by and by will do so. One of these
>years some psychological trigger will make these decisions jell, possibly all
>at once. 

I think that Robert Ettinger makes an important strategic observation here.
  
It is a truism that there will be a particular set of decisive benchmark 
events (technical and social) that will bring cryonics into the main stream of 
our cultural conciousness as an accepted and viable activity.  I also think 
that it is true, given a climate of political will,  that cryonics 
organizations could achieve general agreement about the technical and 
psycological nature of these events, and that they could formulate a 
"strategic" plan to achieve them.

I remember reading, perhaps in the FAQ, a list of technical benchmarks leading 
to cryonic revival of  a mammal.  Perhaps it is time to revisit this list, 
with a view to creating a consensus about the sequence (predecessor and 
successor events) and the way that achieving these events could be announced 
and explained to the general public to achieve the desired degree of awareness 
and acceptance .  It seems to me that setting out a well structured set of 
specific objectives will help to concentrate resources, avoid distractions, 
and improve credibility.  

One important point to note about transformational change (and viable cryonics 
will be an extraordinarily powerful transformational development in human 
history) is that it can only occur on a broad scale when the social 
development of the society as a whole is such that the change is generally 
acceptable to many people in terms of their world view.  The meme of 
conventional religion (mystic spirituality), for example, will not be easily 
displaced, since it operates at an emotional level of thinking much more basic 
in the human psyche than the rational level of thinking where the meme of 
cryonics/nanotechnology resides.  The predominate world view of our 
broader culture still holds that immortality paradigms for the material body 
are futile and foolish, and that  spiritual immortality ought to be the 
objective of the thinking man.  This world view will only change for a 
majority of people when the survival instinct that has been "anesthetized" by 
the meme of mystic spirituality is awakened by a decisive cryonic event that 
demonstrates in an unambiguous way that death can be overcome within the 
material world.  For some of us with good technical educations, the decisive 
cryonic event was Feinmans "Room at the Bottom" lecture, or Drexlers 
"Nanotechnology".  For others, the decisive event will be the advent of true 
artificial intelligence.  For others, the decisive event will be the 
successful suspension and reanimation of a vertebrate.  The point is that 
people act and react according to their world view, that specific events act 
as the triggers for transformational changes in perspective, that these events 
can be predicted to a certain degree, and that there are constituencies that 
can be identified as having (or being likely to have) particular identifiable 
"triggers".

The broad technical objectives appear to me to be:

T1.  Demonstrate, through a series of incremental advances, the viability of 
cryonic suspension and reanimation.  

T2.  Improve the methods of suspension to benefit those opting for cryonics at 
the present time.  

The broad political objectives appear to me to be:

P1.  Move cryonics from the fringe to the main stream.  

P2.  Develop a consensus about the technical benchmarks and psycological 
"trigger" events required to advance cryonics. 

By no means do I think that the four objectives that I have listed 
are exhaustive.  If I was mapping these objectives I would say that P2 leads 
to T1, which leads to P1.  T2 would be hanging out there somewhere in the land 
of "organizational objectives" next to marketing or something.  Given all the 
objectives and sub-objectives one could likely create a conceptual map that 
would shed a fair bit of light on the shape of cryonics, and where effort 
ought to be applied for best effect.  (Perhaps I can take on this mapping task 
if there is interest.)

The value of a  map is that it shows anyone who cares to study it the 
route(s) from where they are to where they want to be, and their progress 
along the way.  They can show it to others they meet and say "See how far I 
have come.  These are the things I have seen and done in the past, and here is 
where I am going.  Do you want to come along?"   What a difference from saying 
"(insert appropriate hand gestures) Forget what you think you know - I know 
better.  Trust me when I tell you to lay down your money and your way of 
thinking about life.  Only a fool would fail to go where I am leading, which 
is over there somewhere!"   Of course, you need the correct map or you end up 
more confused than when you started.

Regards, Steve.

.............................................................................
Stephen Bogner  (DRES/DTD/MES/Vehicle Concepts Group)     
(403) 544-4786  DRE Suffield; Box 4000; Medicine Hat, Alberta; Canada T1A 8K6
"Always leave your clothing and weapons where you can find them in the dark."
                                         - from the notebooks of Lazarus Long

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