X-Message-Number: 3985
Date:  Thu, 09 Mar 95 22:46:42 
From: Steve Bridge <>
Subject: Alcor and Suda's research material


To CryoNet
>From Steve Bridge, Alcor
March 9, 1995

Re: Message #3950
    Date: 04 Mar 95 16:33:06 EST
    From: Mike Darwin <>
    Subject: CRYONICS: Suda's work

    In Mike's discussion of Suda's work, he also comments on how difficult 
it has been to obtain copies of materials from Alcor (because of the 
nature of his personal relationship with Alcor).

     This has been a difficult issue for Alcor's Board of Directors ever 
since Mike left Alcor.  Frequently the Directors and I have not agreed on 
where to draw the line.  For instance, if Mike asks for copies of 
confidential patient information, even if he *wrote* that confidential 
report, should we give it to him?  Would we give it to anyone else?  
(rhetorical questions in the context of CryoNet; not ones to be debated 
here.) And since Mike threw various e-mail bombs over his shoulder toward 
Alcor and its Directors when he left, some hard feelings persist.  Fewer 
people are now willing to go out of their way to help Mike, especially in 
what remains a competitive situation.

     So, yes, sometimes Mike has found it easier to ask other people to 
obtain copies of certain materials for him.     

     Now, on the question of the specific Suda published or unpublished 
material supposedly here at Alcor:  Hugh Hixon and I don't know where that 
is; as in all moves, our move to Arizona last year resulted in material 
being in different places.  I don't believe I ever saw it in the first 
place; Hugh isn't sure.  I don't think we have time to begin a search 
until next week (unless it shows up in the first place we look); but we 
can try to track it down then.

     Thomas Donaldson and Mike Price want copies, in addition to Mike 
Darwin himself, I assume.  If I can find them, I'll be happy to have 
copies made for all three of them.   There will be some kind of copying 
charge for this, since I won't charge our "digging through files" time.  
If others want copies, please e-mail me privately at 

     But remember that this material is largely in Japanese and will be a 
pain to gather up and copy.  Please, no frivolous requests just so you can 
say you have it.

Steve Bridge



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