X-Message-Number: 3994 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 06:05:33 +0100 From: Trygve Bauge <> Subject: BEWARE OF SVEIN HINDAL, (elaboration) PRESS RELEASE REGARDING SVEIN HINDALS FAILURE TO PAY FOR HIS MOTHER FROEYA HINDALS CRYONIC SUSPENSION: February the 28th 1995 To Svein Hindal, I am preparing this and a much harsher press release regarding your willful and fraudulent failure to pay me what you owe me from the time you hired me to freeze your mother Froeya. Either you start making payments immediately, and the first payment by March the 10th of 1995 or I publicize how you have defrauded me. I ask $500 a month starting immediately and lasting until the debth has been paid in full. Trygve PRESS RELEASE In order to raise money towards my grand father's transfer to liquid Nitrogen, I am asking your assistance in collecting some money that is owed me from another cryonic suspension I did a few years ago: WARNING TO CRYONISISTS EVERYWHERE: In late December 1990, Svein Hindal, a retired school teacher from Oslo, tracked me down and asked me to organize the cryonic suspension of his mother Froeya. He promissed to reimburse me for my phone bills and other expenses, pay me $20 an hour for my work, and pay 20 percent interest on any outstanding bills. His lawyer Ole Bratteli even told me that Svein is of the old school, and someone that pays his bills. On these conditions I organized his mother's cryonic suspension and she is now stored at the Cryonic Institute. Hindal paid CI their $28,000++, but he never paid me. I spent about $1,350 on long distance calls and more than 100 hours assisting him and working out an agreement and payment plans, and other follow up totaling $2,200 as of April 1991. Not counting countless hours and phone calls trying to collect the money later. He has acknowledged the debt repeatedly, but has never paid more than about 100 kr or 15 dollars. As a result I had to take money earmarked for my grand father's continued suspension and use this to cover my work and the phone bills and other costs I had had in helping Svein. If I had known that he would not reimburse me I would never have agreed to help him in the first place and his mother would not have been suspended, since I was the one who put him in touch with all the necessary contacts and talked CI into changing their contract and accepting his mother. I basically made available to him the whole network of contacts I had built when I organized the cryonic suspension of my grand father. And I was on the phone many nights in a row to secure the fastest possible response and to follow up that everything was done and every hassle overcome. He promissed me a debt certificate but I never received it. Trying to collect the money while I was in the US was very expensive and futile. Now that I am in Norway I have a better shot at it. I am not letting him be stalling any longer. He still owes me $3,350 plus interest or about $6,000 by now. My mother and I are paying 14 and 15 percent interest on money we have had to borrow ourselves, and even more on my mother's credit cards. And we were not willing to charge him less than we had to pay ourselves on the same money. When Svein approached me he was a stranger and I was not giving away several thousand dollars in cash and work to a stranger. He has several times acknowledged the debt and promissed to pay without ever paying. The fellow owns an apartment house in Stavanger. While the market was down I was willing to grant him a payment extension, but the real estate market is now up. And he could easily refinance or get a larger morgage to pay what he owes me. And this would certainly make it easier for me to finance my grand father's transfer to a safer location. Svein still wants to be frozen himself. He doesn't want publicity, however I have to make the case public and take him to court to get the money that is owed me. I have not promissed secrecy, and am forced to go public with Svein Hindal's fraud so to get my money back. Let this be a warning to other cryonisists who might be dealing with Svein Hindal in the future. To my friends in the cryonic movement: please contact Svein and ask him to pay up: Svein Hindal Hjalmar Johnsens gate 14b, 4019 Stavanger phone 011-47-51-584706 His attorney: Ole Bratteli Ovre Holmegate #22, 4006 Stavanger ph 011-47-51-894710 and 51-656490 Phone bills 710 AT&T end of December to January 7th see receipt 33 MCI December 27th see receipt 743 subtotal 27 AT&T January 7th to February 7th see receipt 90 MCI December 28th to January 21st see receipt 117 subtotal 17 MCI follow up January 28th to Feb 15th see receipt 450 AT&T follow up to March 10th see receipt 467 subtotal 50 estimate of faxes by Jim, John and me 100 estimate of mom's calls from Norway (she helped out) 1,477 subtotal phone related expenses 1,500 dollars rounded Actually more when one take into account that I also made lots of 1-800 calls to Jim Yount at ACS, that ACS then had to pay for at their end. I promissed to reimburse Jim for his expenses and time and include his assistance as part of the total expenses I had acrued and to pay him when I got paid. Since I was never paid, he was never paid either. There was also follow up calls to Svein and his attorney in March of 1991 to work out a debt certificate that they promissed me but bever provided. The attached receipts indicate that I had almost 500 dollars in phone bills with AT&T to Norway from Feb 15th to March 10th, many of these calls were related to Svein Hindal. Labor 2,200 About 110 hours making phone calls, answering the phone, thinking out solutions, searching my files for information, planning, preparing, waiting on phone calls & odd tasks in between phone calls. Some days went around the clock because the time difference. The work came in 7 bursts: organizing the freezing in Norway, assisting with working out a contract, working out the transfer, tracking down Hindals money transfer to CI that got lost and was returned to Norway, and had to be found to not screw up the scheduled transfer, tracking the transfer every step of the way, follow up and answering calls from the client offering support and "hand holding" that continued well into the spring of 1991. Basically I knew from my grand father's suspension and transfer that everything could go wrong, thus I called and double checked everything every step of the way. Also time was spent negotiating payments and a debt certificate both of which I was promissed but non of which I received. Jim and others spend a lot of time too that has not been billed. 3,700 total expense 350 dollars discount if he pays up, a buffer against nitpicking on specific items, so that he can't claim to have been over billed, this included the 15 dollars he has paid too. 3,350 dollars owed My notes from the time indicate that he actually owed me between 4,000 and 4,400 . However when I got deported I lost most of my archive and I am now only in posession of enough bills and receipts to document what I have listed here. 2,680 interest 20 percent interest or 670 dollars a year times 4 years. Norway doesn't permit compound interest (or interest on interest). 6,030 total owed One can however charge for collection and attorney's fees. Something I haven't done yet. My mother advanced to me what Hindal owes me. Thus I now owe her the money. And we both want to use it on my grand father. I billed him for about $2,500 of the expenses in mid January of 1991 before his mother was transfered to CI and before I had the full overview over all the expenses. The above is a more complete bill. The above bill is fully backed up by receipts that I have sent him. The preliminary bill too was fully backed up by then attached phone and work receipts but was never paid. Any assistance in collecting the above outstanding debt, would be welcome. I am sure Jim Yount and the undertaker her in Norway would like to be reimbursed too for anything that might be outstanding. Norway's largest newspaper VG helped Hindal hire me back in December of 1990. There are lots of witnesses that knows that he owes me this money. The news paper has been sitting on the story since 1991 out of respect to Hindals request to them that the story be kept secret. The paper does not have a favorable impression of him since he first contacted the newspaper and then got cold feet about publising the story. Personally I have always been free to publish the story but have waited in the hope that he would pay me. Since he has not kept his part of the bargain the paper is now free to publish. Trygve Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=3994