X-Message-Number: 4004 Date: 13 Mar 95 09:39:44 EST From: "Steven B. Harris" <> Subject: CRYONICS: Re-inventing Wheels In message 4003 Bob Smart writes: >>Let's see if I have this straight, now: Bauge enters the US illegally; contracts to provide cryonics services which he was grossly unprepared to provide; botches it, creating a scandal that--if the media were paying much attention--would discredit the whole concept of cryonics...and now he expects the rest of the cryonics community to rush to his rescue?<< Answer: Yes, Bob, I think that about says it. Some people have simply got to reinvent the wheel. Alas, however, experience is a harsh schoolteacher, for she always presents the test first and the lesson later. Experience also runs an expensive school, as Ben Franklin always noted, yet a fool will learn in no other. When it comes to freezing people, it's been somewhat painful to see Bauge repeat most of the mistakes of the last 25 years of cryonics-- with money, with equipment, with families of the deceased, with the press, with the law, with trying to run a private operation-- all while steadfastly refusing to listen to the advice of people who've been doing it longer, and have developed better ways out of the mistakes we've made long ago. But, as you point out, all this is more than just empathically painful, since what Bauge does may yet impact the rest of us directly too, like it or not, and unfair as that is. If he were trying to re-invent skydiving (say) instead of cryonics (as some cryonicists have sometimes wished) he'd have about as much success, but he would also be much less dangerous to others. Socially, the inevitable end result with skydiving would be put down only to his own foolhardiness, too. When it comes to freezing people for the "challenge" of it, however (as Bauge puts it), I'm afraid things won't be quite so clear. The press in this area still has difficulty distinguishing one lunatic from another. Steve Harris Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=4004