X-Message-Number: 4061 Date: 21 Mar 95 15:27:33 EST From: Bob Smart <> Subject: It never ends! > Open letter to...Bob (Not So) Smart My, how clever. It would appear that there's really very little point in my offering you any further responses, because you've already got all the answers, and a rapier wit besides. However, I will give it at least this one more shot: > It just says how little they know about the situation they are passing > judgement on. Every scrap of information I have on this debacle is information that came directly from you, right here on CryoNet. Did you misquote yourself? > I tried to improve upon everything that was done before. And what a terrific set of improvements it's turned out to be, thus far. >> I am glad that so far, this story has not been widely reported. > Where have you been the last year? Right here in the heart of metropolitan Los Angeles. I monitor our news media constantly, and I haven't seen ANYTHING about you anywhere except right here on CryoNet. > ...You are not in a jail or a prison, but in a concentration camp! If you think an INS detention center is equivalent to a concentration camp, then you need to learn more about concentration camps. > As long as one does the best one can in the face of big obstacles, one > can't really be accused of having botched it. Yes, one can--if one's best is pitifully inadequate, then one should have had better sense than to get in so far over one's head. In the real world, there is no bonus point for "effort." "Trying" counts for NOTHING. DOING is the only thing that ultimately matters. > You have no idea what sacrifices I have gone to to get my grand father > frozen and to since maintain him...I didn't thrash around causing or > compounding problems... Whether you've sacrificed to freeze him is utterly irrelevant. Creating additional obstacles for yourself by defying and challenging the INS is EXACTLY thrashing around and compounding problems. > The INS is probably the weakest and most demoralized group of government > bureaucrats I have come across. And yet they won, and you got deported. And yet you've been engaged in legal battles with them for 8 years. If they're such bunglers and fools, then why couldn't you attend last May's city election? If they're so weak, why even bother to fight them? > What is thorazine? After that long-winded, rambling, and irrelevant tirade about how much you know about psychiatry because of your grandfather, you need to ask what thorazine is? > Civil disobedience has a long and proud history in the US. It certainly does. However, anyone who chooses to engage in it must be aware that the source of its power is that the people who practice it accept the consequences of their actions. Civil disobedience doesn't work if you antagonize the officials and then snivel about it when the inevitable punishment comes; it loses all of its moral force that way. "Civil disobedience" does not mean "breaking the law and getting away with it." Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=4061