X-Message-Number: 4075 From: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 13:06:38 -0500 Subject: SCI. CRYONICS computer threat I don't expect to "win" the uploading debate with Mr. Clark, since he will doubtless outlive me (ante freeze, at least), and we are probably well past the point of diminishing returns. But I'll say a word about possible cryonics/upload competition and about the possible threat of a takeover by intelligent computers. 1. Mr. Clark would be right about no competition between cryonics and uploading at present, since cryonics is the only currently available option--if people acted logically, as he always tries to do. But they don't. In some recess (abscess?) of the brain, in many cases, I think this competition exists, even though it shouldn't. After all, fooling with uploading is much safer psychologically, more comfortable, and perhaps more rewarding career-wise, as well as less expensive. 2. Computers will not necessarily "want" anything, since they will not necessarily have feelings or values. They could have goal-directed programs in some sense, like an advanced version of Grey Walter's mechanical tortoises, but it seems somewhat unlikely that anyone would program a computer to threaten humanity. Anyway, at this stage, someone else would program equally competent computers zealously to guard human interests. In any case, before computer evolution reaches the most threatening stage (independent and self-conscious computers, if that ever happens), we may learn how to integrate a brain with a computer, i.e. make a computer an auxiliary or extension of the brain. In that case, WE would be the benevolent "computers" guarding against any enemy computers. Robert Ettinger Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=4075