X-Message-Number: 4089 From: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 22:06:19 -0500 Subject: SCI. CRYONICS of mice & men Just another quickie, because I am so baffled at the psychology that seems to reject clear proofs. I am determined to find out if the uploaders really have this inviolable blind spot, or if I have it. Keeping it short may also help to prevent changing the subject or giving selective attention. O.K., just this one little point: Turing-testers insist that I cannnot know ANYTHING about another individual except what I can infer from his external appearance and behavior. On the contrary--as just one small example--I can infer an enormous amount of generic information about him (with varying degrees of probability or reliability) by observing and dissecting MICE and by doing autopsies on CADAVERS and by sticking electrodes into the brains of MONKEYS. I can also learn a good deal about him personally (increasingly including some mental processes) through X-rays and NMR and PET and CAT scans and EEGs etc., and surely this is not "external behavior." If I have a twin brother or sister, or even an ordinary sibling, then with varying degrees of reliability I can infer many things about that person--even if we have never met!--because I know so much about myself and have information about the implications of the relationship. R.E. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=4089