X-Message-Number: 4282 From: (Thomas Donaldson) Subject: nanotechnology and its present state Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Basically I have no cavil with Brian Wowk's discussion, but I do feel that some other points need making about our repair technology (not the one we have now, but the one we hope to have in the future). First, whatever you mean by nanotechnology, there is no need for us to have COMPLETE control over matter on a small scale in order to do repair. We are likely to get ENOUGH control long before then. Second, there IS a lot going on in nanotechnology, if you take it in the broad sense. RIGHT NOW we are using and designing viruses to do all kinds of tasks in living people. Our understanding of how to insert genes into cells has been steadily increasing. If you read about experimental work, you will notice that they are doing things which are far past what is done with human beings now (mainly because of legal constraints). The implication of all this work is that we can and will someday go past viruses to design and make even more elaborate biochemical systems. Furthermore, in an area called supramolecular chemistry, there is a lot of work going on RIGHT NOW to design chemicals which can be used to modify and carry out chemical reactions en masse in more and more complicated ways. This work even leads into such things as electronics, including such ideas as using DNA as a basis for computer memories. Finally, there is another field called materials design which again works with materials. In this case, for instance, one thing which the designers of materials try to do is to make them porous so they can hold both catalysts and reactants for chemical reactions in a more efficient way than is done now. Such materials might also serve as specialized filters, too. Some of these specialized materials have also been designed to serve as batteries. Many other uses exist. ALL OF THIS WORK involves manipulating matter on an atomic and molecular scale. It is taking place right now --- just read a few issues of SCIENCE or NATURE and you will notice papers discussing new advances. Just what devices and methods we ultimately use for revival isn't so important as the fact that already a good deal has been done to learn how to manipulate matter on a small scale. And yes, that's exactly what repair will probably take. But it does not require us to make devices just like those Drexler suggests: as we advance in our control, we will probably find more and more ways to do this job. And anyone who doubts that living things can be manipulatedas we manipulate clay should be referred to all the work on genetics, genetic modifications, and how to do them going on right now. Long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=4282