X-Message-Number: 4506 From: (Thomas Donaldson) Subject: Re: CryoNet #4501 - #4503 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Hi! A few comments re. Mike Darwin's remarks: yes, recovery of PEOPLE after 15 minutes does have an anecdotal character to it. I said myself that it required the presence of experts in revival, and such experts are still thin on the ground ... just to start. I will look through both my own databases and others; I was actually close to quoting a paper whose citation I don't have at hand. I have no other problem with what Mike says, and perhaps even there it is a matter of emphasis only. Working up from cats and dogs has proven much more difficult than people hoped when Hossmann and Sato first announced their results. Some of this probably comes from species differences, but another big slab (I believe) comes from the simple fact that clinical cases just don't happen in the controlled way that a lab experiment does. Best and long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=4506