X-Message-Number: 4529 Date: 21 Jun 95 01:17:55 EDT From: Mike Darwin <> Subject: brains Bob asks what I mean when I say that humans took their brains out of the line of fire. First, I should point out that my speculation about why dogs and people have such a singular and common lack of tolerance of cerebral ischemia was just that: idle speculation based on little more than whimsy. However, the whimsy was based on the following observations: 1) Humans apparently evolved on Savannah: grass land, as runners and hunter-gatherers. In short they left the trees and became nonarboreal. 2) Humans hunted in packs and used the same general "wear 'em down" and/or "get the weak ones" technique that dogs do. In fact there is a fair amount of speculation in the literature of evolution that that is where humans and wolves/dogs first crossed paths: certainly the dog has been domesticated for at least 10K years! 3) Arboreal monkeys FALL from trees a lot. Particularly juveniles. They get their heads wacked a lot from this too. Ditto cats who will often climb up, but fall down. I only recently acquired a cat but one thing is sure: falls and good plops on the head aren't all that uncommon. The style of hunting and gathering described in #2 above does not expose humans to much risk of head injury. Indeed, many creatures that strike by ramming or hitting their opponents head hard are only knee high to humans. When I get into an altercation with my pig it is NOT my head I am worried about. This is because I am heads taller than her -- and most animals I would have a confrontation with. Speed: starting with the horse and continuing through the automobile and motorcycle are what puts humans at most risk of head injuries. Otherwise we're pretty good at covering our heads with our hands and arms if we see something coming. Finally, you will note that quite early in civilization (early enough to have had an evolutionary impact based on observations of other species) humans began to actively protect their heads: particularly as *war* became a major part of their culture. Sheilds, helmets, armor, all were attempts at reducing the impact of head injury. Dogs are almost impossible to head injure without use of really heavy force or the induction of counter-coup injury from sudden acceleration of the head (and because of their thick, well muscled necks, inducing that kind of g-force is hard to do). Humans didn't become really susceptible to counter coup injury until they started beating the shit out of each other and riding around at relatively high speeds. What are the real reasons for our poor tolerance to brain ischemia? I assure you I don't know. But, nevertheless, there it is. Hossman reports one cat surviving after an hour of laboratory-induced (and thus VERIFIABLE) global ischemia. Nobody, to my knowledge has reported anything like that for humans. Macaque monkeys will usually have one or two out of 10 or 20 animals that will survive 17-20 minutes of global (verified) ischemia, even in the control group. Not so dogs or people. Mike Darwin Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=4529