X-Message-Number: 4698 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:46:42 -0800 From: (American Cryonics Society) Subject: A BIG CIGAR FOR BROOK NORTON Good for you, Brook Norton. Give the man a big cigar! Your "little different idea," of not tying the survival of a patient to the survival of a cryonics organization is right on the money. Brook, you have just described the program of the American Cryonics Society. We call this strategy "fail safe" planning and have implemented it since our founding in 1969. The money for a particular patient goes into a separate trust, or in some cases simply a separate fund earmarked for that patient. Even if the American Cryonics Society goes out of business, as long as there are companies willing to: 1. manage the funds and 2. take care of the patient for a fee, the patient still has a chance of ultimate revival. This idea is by no means unique to cryonics. For example, by both custom and law, life insurance companies agree to take over and honor the policies of any company which goes broke. The policy owner simply gets a notification which states that his policy has been taken over by a new company and the policy owners is to, henceforth, send premiums to the new company. The policy provisions are honored, to the letter, by the new company. Incidentally, this "fail safe" strategy also helps to protect the cryonics organization, in that the fate of the organization is not so tied to particular patients that lawsuits or other extra-ordinary costs associated with a particular patient will wipe out the cryonics organization or bankrupt the trust funds of other patients. The down side is this strategy places more of a burden on the individual member making suspension arrangements to provide adequate funding. It also puts most of the patient care money effectively out of the control of the cryonics organization. If the American Cryonics Society were to be completely convinced that a little extra money spent on research could shorten the time of all of our patients in suspension we could not use patient trust funds to pay for that research except where a patient's trust document itself designates that use. Yet another problem with separate trusts is that the income from some or all such trusts may be taxable. The question of the charitable nature of cryonics trusts has not yet been tested in the courts. Long life, Jim Yount =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= American Cryonics Society (408)734-4200 FAX (408)734-4441 P.O. Box 1509 Cupertino, CA 95015 =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=4698